GlynnLFC said: I have just this very moment finished the German Super cup, i blitzed Bayern M 5-0!!! 3 goals from the strikers, 2 from the AMC...i better get shopping for some strikers haha! Brill tactic so far, next time im in Bolton i`ll buy you a pint haha. Expand
Zippo said: If you changed something then it isn't a copy and it's something different and it's enough to put your name on the side of it.
My opinion, you played it fair, you said that this tactic isn't entirely yours and it's a tweak. Also, you said what changes you made so people can evaluate the contribution you made. Expand
Ok mate, cheers, are you ok to edit the author please?
Milakus said: But you always can give credits to him in the description of the tactic and also, write up what changes you made.
I said it looks confusing because it looks like he made and posted this tactic but he isn't involved at all.
Honestly, if you check the TIs/Roles in his tactic then you'll see his tactic is heavily based on ZaZ - Blue, the only difference between his tactic and ZaZ - Blue I see is the CM(A) was converted into the 3rd SS and that's all.
Anyway, congrats! Well Done! Expand
Ah, I see what you mean now. To be honest I did think the original looked like ZaZ but couldn't see a reference to it in the original.
It did very well in the testing. 6.7 rating is a very high rating.
But I don't understand why you made kinderjoy to be the author because it's your tactic despite it's a tweak. All that is quite confusing if you ask me. Expand
Thank you,
The tactic fundamentals are his, I only made minor tweaks in my opinion and I'm not one to take credit for someone else's work pal
thepunisher23 said: hello do you know the "FM Lineup Tool" available on fmscout? is it possible to configure it according to the indications of this post? Expand
I don't think you can as the calculations are already pre determined. Maybe worth asking Davy on scout as its his creation
This is a tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/1324-mp/ MP v1. Props to kinderjoy, it is a very good tactic but I just wanted to get more goals out of it. It is also very good defensively.
Changes I made -
Moved the 2 shadow strikers to AFs Removed pass into space Added tackle harder PI to AFs Updated SPs, both attacking and defensive Removed dribble more from the BPDs Removed take more risks from the IWBs
Liverpool result Won the league comfortably by 13 points, Scoring 48 more goals than the next best scoring team. 20 clean sheets in the league with only 29 goals conceded. Quadruple won. Only area to let us down slightly was pass completion, however with a standard passing TI, this tactic isn't designed to be a possession based tactic, it is to get the ball up the field as quickly as possible and this is reflected by the extremely high tempo TI.
I updated the set pieces as I thought I could get more out of corners and I think I achieved that. Scoring 17 goals from corners and conceding only 2.
Another test with Twente, Again apologies for the spamming, but just want to show that it works in different leagues. predicted 11th finished 4 scoring 64 goals (4th best) and conceding 32!(2nd best). Ricky Van Wolfswinkel scored 17 in 29 games and the team ratings are pretty good with quite around the 7 marker or higher. Better than all but 1 stat in the team report average, a little less on the tackles won ratio than the league average
Sorry for spamming, Tested with Lorient, predicted 20th. Finished 2nd on 92 points, 8 behind PSG. Scoring 81 goals and conceding just 33! YES 33! Terem Moffi was top scorer with 36 goals in 38 appearances Team ratings were way better than I thought, well the whole test was a lot better than I thought, 8 players with a rating over 7 and quite a few more close to the 7 marker. Better than all but 1 stat in team report, a little less on the tackles won ratio. Now I know some people will be sceptical about this result, so I've included the injury history from the season to show that the players fitness wasn't frozen
Tested with BVB, won the double and got to the other German cup final. Unfortunately knocked out of the CL by City. 85 points in the league with only 1 defeat, scoring 102 goals and conceding 26. Haaland scored 57 goals in 49 games. Guy is a monster. Over half the team achieved a green rating with a few more getting close to the 7 marker. Above average in all areas on team report
Milakus said: @CBP87, I guess the AM acts as a support unit, I mean you should not expect he scores a lot? Expand
For me the AP is the creator, initially when I was looking at that role for the 4231, I imagined Bruno Fernandes there and although he scores quite a fair amount of goals, he is more of a creator. He had 32 goal contributions from playing that role, well mostly playing that role from what I can tell in the holiday test
Absolutely smashed them
haha Brilliant, pint of whiskey it is
My opinion, you played it fair, you said that this tactic isn't entirely yours and it's a tweak. Also, you said what changes you made so people can evaluate the contribution you made.
Ok mate, cheers, are you ok to edit the author please?
What's your opinion Zippo? Do you think I've done enough to put my name on the side of it?
I said it looks confusing because it looks like he made and posted this tactic but he isn't involved at all.
Honestly, if you check the TIs/Roles in his tactic then you'll see his tactic is heavily based on ZaZ - Blue, the only difference between his tactic and ZaZ - Blue I see is the CM(A) was converted into the 3rd SS and that's all.
Anyway, congrats! Well Done!
Ah, I see what you mean now. To be honest I did think the original looked like ZaZ but couldn't see a reference to it in the original.
I don't think I can change the author now can I?
It did very well in the testing. 6.7 rating is a very high rating.
But I don't understand why you made kinderjoy to be the author because it's your tactic despite it's a tweak. All that is quite confusing if you ask me.
Thank you,
The tactic fundamentals are his, I only made minor tweaks in my opinion and I'm not one to take credit for someone else's work pal
haha don't jinx it
I don't think you can as the calculations are already pre determined. Maybe worth asking Davy on scout as its his creation
This is a tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/1324-mp/ MP v1. Props to kinderjoy, it is a very good tactic but I just wanted to get more goals out of it. It is also very good defensively.
Changes I made -
Moved the 2 shadow strikers to AFs
Removed pass into space
Added tackle harder PI to AFs
Updated SPs, both attacking and defensive
Removed dribble more from the BPDs
Removed take more risks from the IWBs
Liverpool result
Won the league comfortably by 13 points, Scoring 48 more goals than the next best scoring team. 20 clean sheets in the league with only 29 goals conceded. Quadruple won. Only area to let us down slightly was pass completion, however with a standard passing TI, this tactic isn't designed to be a possession based tactic, it is to get the ball up the field as quickly as possible and this is reflected by the extremely high tempo TI.
I updated the set pieces as I thought I could get more out of corners and I think I achieved that. Scoring 17 goals from corners and conceding only 2.
PSG result
Villa Result
I agree, 6.3 is outstanding, might give that tactic a whirl
I wonder what score your tactic will get
Can't see me beating that, would love it though if it beat 5.5
For me the AP is the creator, initially when I was looking at that role for the 4231, I imagined Bruno Fernandes there and although he scores quite a fair amount of goals, he is more of a creator. He had 32 goal contributions from playing that role, well mostly playing that role from what I can tell in the holiday test