I have been using this tweaked version in my FC Bayern Munchen save. I dropped 2 points all season in all comps. I know its the German league and some may consider it easy with Bayern but to go undefeated in all comps is pretty good even with an OP team.
Notable results were 4 - 1 win away to Inter, 5 - 1 away win to Dortmund, 3 - 0 away win to Real Madrid, 5 - 0 home win against Real Madrid, 9 - 0 Home win against Frankfurt, 7 - 1 DFB Pokal final against Freiburg.
I went with a winger on the right instead of a inside forward. The winger role has instructions to cut inside and close down more. I've gone with much shorter passing to encourage more compact play with the players being closer together which will hopefully increase ball retention
Apologies, I don't know what's going on with me at the minute but I've uploaded the wrong version again. Sorry. Would you mind deleting this thread too for me please.
Millwallak12 said: Cheers brother , you think I can dominate with this tactic on console to ?? Used your other ones where someone posted the instructions unbelievable. How do you even come up with it ? Expand
I couldn't tell you mate if you would dominate or not, its a good tactic, used it in a some of my saves and it's done well. The main reason a tactic will dominate is your players pal. I'm not sure if console is the same but focus on acceleration and pace and you should clear up.
Which other ones have you used and I can't tell you to be honest, inspiration from different places
Millwallak12 said: Hey mate , literally got an account to say two things. Wow you’re amazing at tactics and the second can I have the instructions I’m on console - for the players . Expand
Thank you and I'm just at work at the moment so don't have access to FM but I'll get them over to you later unless some kind soul can provide them for you beforehand
Changes- Removed underlap Removed be more disciplined Removed invite crosses Removed direct passes from FB Removed hold up ball from IF Added cut inside, mark tighter and mark specific position to FB Added mark tighter to CB Added mark specific position to IF
Tactic went unbeaten in all comps. Only 4 draws in all comps. Best XI selected. AM in charge of training. Set pieces left to set piece coach.
Changes- Removed underlap right Added hold position to DM Removed dribble more from left CM Added take more risks to right CM Removed hold up ball from inside forwards
May I ask what would you command for the IF's attributes?
I have used Kulusevski, Pino, Writz and Yammal in my runs. Expand
Hi,
Left footer on the right, right on the left
Attributes wise I would say you need acceleration, pace, agility, off the ball, anticipation, strength and technique. So off the ball will compliment roam from position and strength will compliment hold up ball
Zhi said: Hi everyone, may I ask how did everyone get on with this tactic, I wonder if anyone would have some experience to share at all?
As far as I understand from the comments here, there are only minor tactical difference between this tactic and Problem Solving:
So I have made the changes and ran this tactic 3 times, each time lasted 2 to 3 seasons.
I lost a lot of more games comparing to Problem Solving.
I am a console player, I always play Spurs and buy almost the same players each run, and I will restart once I won the Champ League, it's usually the 2nd season.
With Problem Solving, I would usually lose no more than 4 games a season, but with this improved tactic, I have lost about 4 times that.
Is the free roaming on the IF's all there is to change?
Please advice. Expand
My advice would be to use problem solving if it works for you. This tactic is very good and so is problem solving, what I would suggest is having a look at the movement attributes of your inside forwards, they may not have the attributes to roam from position effectively
I have been using this tweaked version in my FC Bayern Munchen save. I dropped 2 points all season in all comps. I know its the German league and some may consider it easy with Bayern but to go undefeated in all comps is pretty good even with an OP team.
Notable results were 4 - 1 win away to Inter, 5 - 1 away win to Dortmund, 3 - 0 away win to Real Madrid, 5 - 0 home win against Real Madrid, 9 - 0 Home win against Frankfurt, 7 - 1 DFB Pokal final against Freiburg.
I went with a winger on the right instead of a inside forward. The winger role has instructions to cut inside and close down more. I've gone with much shorter passing to encourage more compact play with the players being closer together which will hopefully increase ball retention
I've tried to emulate some of these roles as with the top roles this year, so W instead of IF but implementing some of the player instructions
Changes-
WBa to FBa
Best XI selected. AM in charge of training. Set pieces left to set piece coach
Changes-
Added close down more to IF
Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/11922-4231-suckerpunch-v1-4/
Changes-
Added close down more to FB and IF
Added hold up ball to IF
Added underlap
Apologies, I don't know what's going on with me at the minute but I've uploaded the wrong version again. Sorry. Would you mind deleting this thread too for me please.
Thanks and apologies again
There you go mate
I couldn't tell you mate if you would dominate or not, its a good tactic, used it in a some of my saves and it's done well. The main reason a tactic will dominate is your players pal. I'm not sure if console is the same but focus on acceleration and pace and you should clear up.
Which other ones have you used and I can't tell you to be honest, inspiration from different places
Thank you and I'm just at work at the moment so don't have access to FM but I'll get them over to you later unless some kind soul can provide them for you beforehand
Changes-
Removed underlap
Removed be more disciplined
Removed invite crosses
Removed direct passes from FB
Removed hold up ball from IF
Added cut inside, mark tighter and mark specific position to FB
Added mark tighter to CB
Added mark specific position to IF
Yea I've got the players matching to your suggestions.
EDIT: Do you have the mark DL and DR on the Inside Forwards or do you take that off?
Thanks.
It appears to be more effective with it on
Tactic went unbeaten in all comps. Only 4 draws in all comps. Best XI selected. AM in charge of training. Set pieces left to set piece coach.
Changes-
Removed underlap right
Added hold position to DM
Removed dribble more from left CM
Added take more risks to right CM
Removed hold up ball from inside forwards
May I ask what would you command for the IF's attributes?
I have used Kulusevski, Pino, Writz and Yammal in my runs.
Hi,
Left footer on the right, right on the left
Attributes wise I would say you need acceleration, pace, agility, off the ball, anticipation, strength and technique. So off the ball will compliment roam from position and strength will compliment hold up ball
Changes-
Removed take more risks from CM
As far as I understand from the comments here, there are only minor tactical difference between this tactic and Problem Solving:
So I have made the changes and ran this tactic 3 times, each time lasted 2 to 3 seasons.
I lost a lot of more games comparing to Problem Solving.
I am a console player, I always play Spurs and buy almost the same players each run, and I will restart once I won the Champ League, it's usually the 2nd season.
With Problem Solving, I would usually lose no more than 4 games a season, but with this improved tactic, I have lost about 4 times that.
Is the free roaming on the IF's all there is to change?
Please advice.
My advice would be to use problem solving if it works for you. This tactic is very good and so is problem solving, what I would suggest is having a look at the movement attributes of your inside forwards, they may not have the attributes to roam from position effectively
Changes-
Mentality to attacking
Roam from position removed from IF
Close down more removed from support roles
Take more risks and dribble added to CM