I get your points but I'm sorry I don't agree with the only thing that counts is the score from the test. If he had stated in the OP that he had used the editor then fair enough but he didn't and in a way to me that is a way of trying to con us that the tactic is better than what it actually is. All I was asking is why he had saved the game an excessive number of times and he became defensive and abusive. I was actually trying to help him by asking him about the excessive saving as people were showing that he had potentially cheated.
One thing I don't like is people misleading others, whether you see it as wrong or right or the fact that the only thing that is relevant is the test results. We should be honest about our own testing
MakeSuRE said: No more conversation with a cheater like me plz. As long as I finished my whole shaming season, I will put my ugly screentshots onto this thread and maybe at that time more people would stand by u and shout ' WHY YOU SAVED SO MANY TIMES'.
I swipe out something I would like to say/complain/argue, cos I find out what I am doing is just what u did to me. Frankly speaking, I have no obligation or right to bend ur will, nor do u. So I apologize for my offence and leave u free to dig the truth of this 79-times-game-saving case.
Sincere thanks to everyone who downloaded, used, and leaved comments, and I would never reply to any posts about the game saving times or sth else about CHEATING.
Human beings only believe in what they want to see. Expand
I think there are already a number of people who are thinking the same as me, you've saved the game 79 times, someone has called you out on potentially "cheating". My questioning is trying to help you ascertain that you're not, so if you would explain why you've saved 79 times for 50 games then I'm sure it would go somewhere to easing peoples opinions. But you haven't done that, you've become very defensive and abusive which to be honest in my opinion makes it look like you are cheating
You're missing the point, you say you save after every game. You played 50 games and saves 79 times, all I'm asking is why you saved so many times? Very defensive and if anyone is being aggressive, it's you with the swearing
Really excessive saving the game 79 times when you've probably during that period played approx 50 - 55 games and I don't understand your point about the tactic being made in China
MakeSuRE said: As I explained，I played about 50 matches and I would click the save button every time when a match is done. My explanation of doing so is that my game time is pieced when I am in my office, in a coffeehouse or at home, with so many things flooding to me even makes a single match’s period lasting from morning to midnight. For now, I dont even know the meaning of trying to prove that I’m not a cheater. Why the **** I have to waste my bedtime trying to make my 79-times-own-game-save to be legal. Try this cheater-made garbage first and show the cheater author how bad the tactic is. BTW, this tactic is MADE IN CHINA and gentleman you should say ‘ to be fair it has a point’. Expand
to be fair he has a point, why are you saving the game 79 times?? that makes no sense regardless of how many games you've played. 79 times is excessive
Lovely stuff, it might be worth going forward sticking them screenshots in your opening post mate. It looked like you were submitting a tactic that played 5 league games
ZaZ said: In my "defense", that was the first week after release, so I tried very different tactics to see what direction was good. For example, Cyan has low tempo, purple has three wingers in each side, orange is all out attack, blue is balanced, and so on. Each of them has their own traits.
I don't think anyone minds people spamming tactics, they just don't want people to spam very similar tweaks of the same tactic, as if the author is trying to use a brute force algorithm. Expand
No defense is needed as I'm not saying your spamming tactics, The author of the this thread is pretty much saying all other tacticians throw out a load of tactics in the hope one works. I think that is very unfair on other tacticians and I was merely pointing out to the author that you've produced a lot of tactics too
But unfortunately, it's very hard to find a team that fits this formation. Most team have Inside Forwards and Wingers and they don't have enough central midfielders, especially, very quality central midfielders so I doubt it'll be very popular Expand
Not so sure about that pal, I mean I've tested it with multiple teams and it did better than pre season prediction, with the likes of Villa and PSG they have very strong wide players but it still did very well. I suppose its personal preference, I'm using this in one of my saves and I sold all the wide players and brought in work horses for the midfield roles (Bissouma is fantastic by the way). Messi mostly played as the right sided Mez in the PSG save
I have only registered to say thank you to ZAZ, the master of puppets! I don't know how you do it, but you trumped all other tacticians in FM 21, and it seems you are going to do the same this year. Well, tacticians is too much said in the case of your opponents, most of them just throw multiple tactics on the market and hope one works out.
Good luck, and thanks again!
PS: Waiting for a tactic that has at least 0.5 better ratings than everyone else! Cheers Expand
Make's no sense, yes ZaZ is a very good tactician but he has also released 15 tactics this year so to say every one just throws tactics out there is a bit contradictory
Filer974 said: This is not a criticism of your tactics, I know how difficult it is to find the perfect balance. I did the Evidence tactic and with teams like Norwich I don't have a better ranking Expand
Don't worry, I haven't seen it as a criticism and you're free to do your own testing. I'm just running a test now with Norwich to see how it fares, what you said makes sense in regards to testing with elite clubs
One thing I don't like is people misleading others, whether you see it as wrong or right or the fact that the only thing that is relevant is the test results. We should be honest about our own testing
I swipe out something I would like to say/complain/argue, cos I find out what I am doing is just what u did to me. Frankly speaking, I have no obligation or right to bend ur will, nor do u. So I apologize for my offence and leave u free to dig the truth of this 79-times-game-saving case.
Sincere thanks to everyone who downloaded, used, and leaved comments, and I would never reply to any posts about the game saving times or sth else about CHEATING.
Human beings only believe in what they want to see.
I think there are already a number of people who are thinking the same as me, you've saved the game 79 times, someone has called you out on potentially "cheating". My questioning is trying to help you ascertain that you're not, so if you would explain why you've saved 79 times for 50 games then I'm sure it would go somewhere to easing peoples opinions. But you haven't done that, you've become very defensive and abusive which to be honest in my opinion makes it look like you are cheating
BTW, this tactic is MADE IN CHINA and gentleman you should say ‘ to be fair it has a point’.
So you played 79 games in that period?
I don't think anyone minds people spamming tactics, they just don't want people to spam very similar tweaks of the same tactic, as if the author is trying to use a brute force algorithm.
No defense is needed as I'm not saying your spamming tactics, The author of the this thread is pretty much saying all other tacticians throw out a load of tactics in the hope one works. I think that is very unfair on other tacticians and I was merely pointing out to the author that you've produced a lot of tactics too
Not sure if this is a response to my comment but not saying ZaZ is spamming
But unfortunately, it's very hard to find a team that fits this formation. Most team have Inside Forwards and Wingers and they don't have enough central midfielders, especially, very quality central midfielders so I doubt it'll be very popular
Not so sure about that pal, I mean I've tested it with multiple teams and it did better than pre season prediction, with the likes of Villa and PSG they have very strong wide players but it still did very well. I suppose its personal preference, I'm using this in one of my saves and I sold all the wide players and brought in work horses for the midfield roles (Bissouma is fantastic by the way). Messi mostly played as the right sided Mez in the PSG save
I have only registered to say thank you to ZAZ, the master of puppets! I don't know how you do it, but you trumped all other tacticians in FM 21, and it seems you are going to do the same this year. Well, tacticians is too much said in the case of your opponents, most of them just throw multiple tactics on the market and hope one works out.
Good luck, and thanks again!
PS: Waiting for a tactic that has at least 0.5 better ratings than everyone else! Cheers
Make's no sense, yes ZaZ is a very good tactician but he has also released 15 tactics this year so to say every one just throws tactics out there is a bit contradictory
Well I wasn't expecting a 5
Don't worry, I haven't seen it as a criticism and you're free to do your own testing. I'm just running a test now with Norwich to see how it fares, what you said makes sense in regards to testing with elite clubs