I've tweaked the tactic as to what I feel works in FM22 in terms of TIs and roles. The tactic is defensively strong and scores quite a lot. Don't expect to dominate possession as the tactic is based on quick transitions. Its an aggressive tactic so expect yellows. you can removed tackle harder from the PIs but you'll lose the disruptiveness that this PI brings. NO EDITORS USED
As I do with all my tactics, I holiday test them leaving the AM in charge of team selection and general training. I don't have them doing individual training as I've found that they train the players in roles that aren't being used in the tactic. For this testing I used Fulham, PSG, Villa and Celta. I will be aiming to test with more teams.
I'll start with Fulham, who finished the league undefeated. Yes that's 46 games no losses. 34 wins and 12 draws. It matched the record for games won, broke the record for games without losing and most points in a season (although it doesn't show on the below screenshot, the previous record was 106, we achieved 114)
Mitrovic scored 44 goals and and 145 goals scored in all comps. I believe this tactic got the best of the team with 3 players topping the average rating chart
On to PSG, I know it's an easy league, but its good to see how it performs with an elite team. Won everything with PSG, Mbappe scored 71 goals in all comps and we beat Barca 6 - 0 in the CL final.
Villa were predicted 11th pre season, but we managed to get 5th and European football. Side note on this one, Matty Cash must've broke the record for yellow cards in one season, he had 18 yellows and 3 reds, its definitely worth sticking ease off tackles on him!
Celta Vigo were predicted 10th but we achieved a 3rd place finish and European football. Aspas (41) and Mina (39) scored 80 goals between them. We finished 5 points off 1st place and we were runners up in the Spanish cup.
Again the tactic is very aggressive so expect cards. I would suggest also training the player in the roles you are wanting to play them in. follow this guide to improve familiarity https://fm-arena.com/thread/1520-tactic-familiarity/ (it still works) Once familiar then train how you see fit
Will test with some other teams and post the results
Hmmm... it might be that it was a visual bug and under the hood it always worked as "slightly shorter passing" and "fairly narrow".
Anyway, based on our experience I can say that 1 notch difference in the passing and width settings make so small difference that it hardly can be seen after 6 tests ( 912 matches ). Expand
Zippo said: Could you elaborate a little bit on that? I don't get it. Expand
Yeah no worries mate, so if I may use Mongoose as an example, it uses very attacking mentality with standard passing and standard width but with the ME update, these options are no longer available for very attacking mentality and have defaulted to slightly shorter passing and fairly narrow width meaning its a different tactic so to speak
Wigo said: not shure about exact attacking mentality but after patch ME is changed drasticaly... one thing is shure that near post corners gonne for good played about 10 games - 0 corners scored Expand
I agree, in each of these tests, my CBs have scored considerably less than what they were scoring pre patch. In pretty much all my elite testing pre patch my CBs were double figures, no way near now
Metal said: So far using very attacking on the new M.E is russian rullette suicide. Scored 6 and conceded 6 in the same game Expand
I reckon its been nerfed!(is that the saying? if not then patched) I've tested about 6 of my tactics with PSG since the patch that use very attacking mentality and they have gone to crap (probably just my tactics haha)
ZaZ said: To be honest, with the new ME, most data they got to make the database might have become invalid, since they tried to get the most effective to previous patch. Let's just hope it stays the same so they don't need to update their test league again. Expand
But those tactics that use very attacking mentality will essentially be null and void because the instructions used will no longer be there
Sorry I don't follow what you mean?
Predicted 20th? Holiday test?
What team are you? You will concede goals because of the very attacking mentality and with the IWBs on attacking duty
I have been looking at rejuvenating some of my FM21 tactics and the next tactic on my list was El Phenomenon. I didn't post it on here but I did on base (https://fm-base.co.uk/resources/el-phenomenon-4132-won-the-league-with-fiorentina-100-pts-predicted-7th.2669/) Tookajobs also did a video on it
I've tweaked the tactic as to what I feel works in FM22 in terms of TIs and roles. The tactic is defensively strong and scores quite a lot. Don't expect to dominate possession as the tactic is based on quick transitions. Its an aggressive tactic so expect yellows. you can removed tackle harder from the PIs but you'll lose the disruptiveness that this PI brings. NO EDITORS USED
As I do with all my tactics, I holiday test them leaving the AM in charge of team selection and general training. I don't have them doing individual training as I've found that they train the players in roles that aren't being used in the tactic. For this testing I used Fulham, PSG, Villa and Celta. I will be aiming to test with more teams.
I'll start with Fulham, who finished the league undefeated. Yes that's 46 games no losses. 34 wins and 12 draws. It matched the record for games won, broke the record for games without losing and most points in a season (although it doesn't show on the below screenshot, the previous record was 106, we achieved 114)
Mitrovic scored 44 goals and and 145 goals scored in all comps. I believe this tactic got the best of the team with 3 players topping the average rating chart
On to PSG, I know it's an easy league, but its good to see how it performs with an elite team. Won everything with PSG, Mbappe scored 71 goals in all comps and we beat Barca 6 - 0 in the CL final.
Villa were predicted 11th pre season, but we managed to get 5th and European football. Side note on this one, Matty Cash must've broke the record for yellow cards in one season, he had 18 yellows and 3 reds, its definitely worth sticking ease off tackles on him!
Celta Vigo were predicted 10th but we achieved a 3rd place finish and European football. Aspas (41) and Mina (39) scored 80 goals between them. We finished 5 points off 1st place and we were runners up in the Spanish cup.
Again the tactic is very aggressive so expect cards. I would suggest also training the player in the roles you are wanting to play them in. follow this guide to improve familiarity https://fm-arena.com/thread/1520-tactic-familiarity/ (it still works) Once familiar then train how you see fit
Will test with some other teams and post the results
Thanks
https://fm-arena.com/thread/1661-how-fm-arena-picks-tactics-for-the-testing/
Because there is a massive backlog of tactics to be tested. Have a bit of patience
End of season results, final table etc..
Hmmm... it might be that it was a visual bug and under the hood it always worked as "slightly shorter passing" and "fairly narrow".
Anyway, based on our experience I can say that 1 notch difference in the passing and width settings make so small difference that it hardly can be seen after 6 tests ( 912 matches ).
Thanks for explaining pal
Yeah no worries mate, so if I may use Mongoose as an example, it uses very attacking mentality with standard passing and standard width but with the ME update, these options are no longer available for very attacking mentality and have defaulted to slightly shorter passing and fairly narrow width meaning its a different tactic so to speak
How will you get around the difference the update has made to the TIs for very attacking mentalities?
I agree, in each of these tests, my CBs have scored considerably less than what they were scoring pre patch. In pretty much all my elite testing pre patch my CBs were double figures, no way near now
I reckon its been nerfed!(is that the saying? if not then patched) I've tested about 6 of my tactics with PSG since the patch that use very attacking mentality and they have gone to crap (probably just my tactics haha)
But those tactics that use very attacking mentality will essentially be null and void because the instructions used will no longer be there