Delicious said: Keep in mind that all of this are just 1200 games, we are just checking which shape are working etc. We really don't know if SI is gonna make again magical changes between beta and full release. Expand
Unless they think this game is too easy, I don't see them changing anything tactically. Last year, the only thing that worked on the Beta was a double pivot, but this year anything works to a degree. I think they'll turn down the injury frequency but that will be it
Okay I was definitely wrong about the width then, I've got one more of these shapes testing now with a few different instructions. But I reckon you've cracked this system
Mentality back to balanced, close down more on CBs, tackle harder re-added. City were a little underwhelming at times but KDB had a huge injury. Luton getting better every test, this time with a +9 GD!
dzek said: Last year there was an issue with wingers in general (W, DW, IW) that in order to have a winger cutting inside you had to have the role of an inverted winger in your tactics. But there was a slight difference in how each winger role behaved and that was the width they provided in the final third.
The wingers/defensive wingers kept the width in all phases of the game while the inverted wingers, when the build from defence to attack was over, they cut inside WITHOUT the ball. The same is true in this year's version for the inverted wingers. The difference with the wingers/defensive wingers this year is that they can cut inwards WITH the ball at their feet but still maintain their width in attack WITHOUT the ball.
Also the reason why the cut inside roles worked better last year and this year is because of the latest updates they made to FM23 ( ME 23.2 ) that encouraged more central attacking play.
dzek said: Or WBs on Attack duty are OP on FM24 Beta Expand
Yes but even them I'm sure it's the width doing it. @Blau uploaded a version of this a few days ago that did incredibly well with DWs. I've been testing the same shape since with IWs and it has been nowhere near as good
I have a hunch that width is very important on this game, a bit like it was in FM22. Last year we could play IWB with IW no problem but I'm not sure that's the case now
This is probably my final version of this tactic for a while. Tackle harder has been removed from all players aside from the GK, and lots of PIs have been added to mirror the ones that @Delicious has been using recently in different shapes to this one.
Thought I'd test another version of this while I was here. Added dribble more and take more risks to all outfield positions, plus I got rid of "get further forward" on IWBs and IWs. Luton were also involved in this test hence why their numbers are skewed slightly.
sponsorkindest said: @Blau congrats on an awesome tactic but my heart sank when I saw the 2 out of 3 top tactics are using WM. I understand you can train em but then comes the Saudi clubs and they poach your players and you need to repeat the process. Expand
If this tactic is good, then I imagine the 4-2-4 is good as well which uses regular wingers instead of the WM. We'll have to wait and see
This is essentially a merge of tactics uploaded by @Blau and @Delicious, adding in the very high lines, as well as removing tackle harder from all players.
We really don't know if SI is gonna make again magical changes between beta and full release.
Unless they think this game is too easy, I don't see them changing anything tactically. Last year, the only thing that worked on the Beta was a double pivot, but this year anything works to a degree. I think they'll turn down the injury frequency but that will be it
The wingers/defensive wingers kept the width in all phases of the game while the inverted wingers, when the build from defence to attack was over, they cut inside WITHOUT the ball. The same is true in this year's version for the inverted wingers. The difference with the wingers/defensive wingers this year is that they can cut inwards WITH the ball at their feet but still maintain their width in attack WITHOUT the ball.
Also the reason why the cut inside roles worked better last year and this year is because of the latest updates they made to FM23 ( ME 23.2 ) that encouraged more central attacking play.
This is my opinion
Spot on I reckon
Yes but even them I'm sure it's the width doing it. @Blau uploaded a version of this a few days ago that did incredibly well with DWs. I've been testing the same shape since with IWs and it has been nowhere near as good
I've had a bit of a mare there. Tactic (despite being wrong) did alright though
HELLO I THINK THE MENTALITY WILL PROBABLY STAY THE SAME
If this tactic is good, then I imagine the 4-2-4 is good as well which uses regular wingers instead of the WM. We'll have to wait and see