Belmorn said: How do you test your tactic atm ? I find it hard to draw conclusions on creating a tactic and just do one big holiday. Expand
There is no right answer for that question. Each testing platform has a different methodology and all of them are valid. If you want to test it without going on holiday, you can just play a normal season with the tactic, managing the team, and see how it performs compared to other tactics you have tested before.
Red is a high intensity tactic with very attacking mentality. This is an early post for people that want to use a solid tactic during beta, but performance can change drastically after release, when match engine changes. Description will be updated after game release.
Here are some results and performance of a holiday test with Manchester City and Norwich, predicted 1st and 20th respectively. Tactic was just plugged in and all other decisions were up to assistant manager, including team selection.
Leave a comment below if you liked the tactic and make sure to share your results. Enjoy!
arsenal737 said: Good evening everybody, old timer of this beautiful game here having played zillions of hours right from championship manager as it was called then. Dear ZaZ, I've tried your test tactic you posted last in the forum and guys its the best tactic I've come across on Beta so far. Request everyone to blindly plug and play it. And ZaZ mate you are definitely the numero uno tactic creator I've seen in all these years although you being very down to earth and don't like taking credit, but please do for the work you have created here. I mean really I truly appreciate your tactics especially the last one. Always waiting for your next one, cheers!!! Expand
Thank you so much!
I decided to open my test results this year to help people get better tactics. I understand that might make someone post the same tactic before me and claim credits for it (maybe in another forum or Discord server), but I still think this way is better for everyone. Being in the top of the table is kinda tiresome, because you suddenly become a celebrity with thousands of questions asked every day, even though you are just a player like many others.
Anyway, thank you again for the encouraging words! I'll keep trying to improve the tactic, but everything might disappear once game is released because of new match engine.
BiTeL33T said: any with slower tempo? even rotating my team all the time im getting so many injuries Expand
Probably not gonna have top tactic without maximum intensity. When you lower tempo, you lower you chance to win. You can use it to rest when match is already won, tough.
P.S.: Pass Into Space was one of the worst team instructions I tried. Avoid it like the plague.
Sane said: Do your recommendations only relate to your tactics? Or do you talk about what works on this engine in any tactic? Expand
They most likely work for most tactics. However, it's possible that some specific tactics can bring the best out of something I said didn't work very well. Also, keep in mind that this is Beta and match engine will change a couple of times after release.
Kyle said: For me I tried solo TF striker and HB DM and none of them were that great, actually felt worse, i'd say the only one where I noticed a definitive difference is inverted wingers on attack which I got from you, instantly noticed them playing better.
For me FB attack and DLP defend seem to be good, aswell as 1 AF with 2 AMs on attack behind. Expand
As a fan of target man role I'm encouraged by your findings, have you tried a TF-Su + TF-At combo? Personally I've had decent success with various striker roles as long as the strikers were tall and good in the air - lots of goals from headers.
Would you suggest using big, tall strikers as TF-At or any type of striker should do?
Thanks Expand
About TF-Su + TF-At, it got worse results than double TF-At for me. It doesn't mean it's bad, it just wasn't the best for my setup.
About tall strikers, I am not sure about it yet. I didn't do any tests about it, so any opinion I give now would be just a guess. I believe FM-Arena will test it some time after beta, so we will eventually know.
pixar said: So how should the ideal TF be? 170-180cm tall, bad jumping (7-11), amazing speed (+18) +190cm tall, avg jumping & speed (15-16)
In year, when choosing a TF, should our main criterion be height or speed? Expand
It's hard to know yet, since I'm focusing in testing the tactic instead of what players would fit in better. I don't want to make any wild guesses that might influence people to the wrong direction.
If you really want to know what I would pick, I would probably go for the first option, since it worked better last version (FM21) and I don't have much info about FM22 yet.
My first suggestion for anyone doing tactics is to use TF-At, they seem to do better than any other role. I also tried most interesting combinations and none is better than two TF-At. I have yet to try three strikers or one striker, but I don't think it will be much different.
I find it hard to draw conclusions on creating a tactic and just do one big holiday.
There is no right answer for that question. Each testing platform has a different methodology and all of them are valid. If you want to test it without going on holiday, you can just play a normal season with the tactic, managing the team, and see how it performs compared to other tactics you have tested before.
https://fm-arena.com/thread/1630-zaz-red-0-2/
Here are some results and performance of a holiday test with Manchester City and Norwich, predicted 1st and 20th respectively. Tactic was just plugged in and all other decisions were up to assistant manager, including team selection.
Leave a comment below if you liked the tactic and make sure to share your results. Enjoy!
I am using the same schedule from last year, which you can find here: https://fm-arena.com/thread/884-zaz-blue-3-0/
However, keep in mind that I never did any testing with trainings and the ones I use might very well be as good or bad as any other.
Thank you so much!
I decided to open my test results this year to help people get better tactics. I understand that might make someone post the same tactic before me and claim credits for it (maybe in another forum or Discord server), but I still think this way is better for everyone. Being in the top of the table is kinda tiresome, because you suddenly become a celebrity with thousands of questions asked every day, even though you are just a player like many others.
Anyway, thank you again for the encouraging words! I'll keep trying to improve the tactic, but everything might disappear once game is released because of new match engine.
Gonna add to the queue to be tested.
Probably not gonna have top tactic without maximum intensity. When you lower tempo, you lower you chance to win. You can use it to rest when match is already won, tough.
P.S.: Pass Into Space was one of the worst team instructions I tried. Avoid it like the plague.
Found some similar, but no better yet.
Probably gonna have to test again when match engine changes again. I'm just trying to get a solid foundation.
They most likely work for most tactics. However, it's possible that some specific tactics can bring the best out of something I said didn't work very well. Also, keep in mind that this is Beta and match engine will change a couple of times after release.
Yet to try it.
For me FB attack and DLP defend seem to be good, aswell as 1 AF with 2 AMs on attack behind.
One TF with two SS also do well.
P.S.: I now started to test wingback roles.
Target Forward, they changed name in FM22.
As a fan of target man role I'm encouraged by your findings, have you tried a TF-Su + TF-At combo? Personally I've had decent success with various striker roles as long as the strikers were tall and good in the air - lots of goals from headers.
Would you suggest using big, tall strikers as TF-At or any type of striker should do?
Thanks
About TF-Su + TF-At, it got worse results than double TF-At for me. It doesn't mean it's bad, it just wasn't the best for my setup.
About tall strikers, I am not sure about it yet. I didn't do any tests about it, so any opinion I give now would be just a guess. I believe FM-Arena will test it some time after beta, so we will eventually know.
pixar said: So how should the ideal TF be?
170-180cm tall, bad jumping (7-11), amazing speed (+18)
+190cm tall, avg jumping & speed (15-16)
In year, when choosing a TF, should our main criterion be height or speed?
It's hard to know yet, since I'm focusing in testing the tactic instead of what players would fit in better. I don't want to make any wild guesses that might influence people to the wrong direction.
If you really want to know what I would pick, I would probably go for the first option, since it worked better last version (FM21) and I don't have much info about FM22 yet.
You're weclome!
You can check on the link below:
https://fm-arena.com/thread/1611-zaz-s-log
Fanatic is better for two ST. If you don's need two ST, then this one is better.