zaidan said: sorry quick question. if my right winger is left footed and my left winger is right footed with their roles being wingers does it affect the success rate of the tactic or does it not matter? Expand
Ralle said: I can’t upload any of your tactics at all right now. Could you save them again in your current game so the ME is updated? Maybe change their names as well — I know that has worked before — so I can finish testing them.
I’ve been playing around with one of your older tactics myself, and I’ve noticed that your base settings really help lay the foundation for creating new tactics. I’ve actually developed a 3-5-2 that works super well — I finished 4th with Sunderland in the first season.
I tried sending you a PM, but you don’t have any more space to receive messages
hakatory said: First of all, thank you for the great strategy.
Regarding this tactic, I would like to change 3 strikers to attacking midfielders. Is there a role you would recommend for the 3 attacking midfielders?
What do you think about the opinion that a tactic without a striker is better for this series? Expand
I tried something like that before, but results where unfortunately worse. If you still want to try it, check Summer 0.2, it has CHM (AM) / TWM. Another role you can try is CHM (AM) / CM.
Kaczy said: @ZaZ Ok i know you are great tactic creator mate but this year i think you beat engine 2 weeks after release It is my first seson in PL. I am used to get promotion every year from low leagues up to highest one but i never had such good 1st year in PL. Probably i will win PL when team will reach higher cohesion. My players are L1-CH lvl , 3-4 of them low PL lvl and i have one wonderkid but he is playing like shiet. Results after 10 PL games - i lost with MU in CUP couse i was playing B team. Most terryfing that those bunch of noname players are completly dominating other teams. AI do not know how to play against such hudge intensivity and attacking football. Games are totally one sided ofc beside Brighton. All of them it is total dominance check 3-3 against MU. I am also using your set pieces and acctually i score more goals in this seson from set pieces then in 6 sesons while i was climbing to PL and i was always winning league. Great work once again. Expand
iamkurtgoz said: I win big matches with a single goal. At least I don't lose 1-0 with a single shot. I don't know if this is due to the tactic or the ME update. Expand
Glad it is working well. Are you using the set pieces too?
max 737 said: Using Zaz's set pieces my defender scored a very important goal from a indirect free kick in quarter final of the Champions League Expand
Gratz! I was considering only the League. If we put together all competitions, then goals from set pieces get even higher. I would estimate them to be around ~20% of total goals of the season.
pixar said: @ZaZ Good to see you back, man. Welcome back to the community. I really couldn't find a good set piece in FM26. Could you share your results from your tests? For example, how many goals did your team score in the league from corners or free kicks? Expand
Thank you! Results depend a lot on the team, because of the characteristic of the players. Keep in mind I tested with teams predicted for middle of the table and last place (Like Nottingham Forest and Burnley). For corners, results range from 10-15, and indirect free kicks were 5-6 per season. Some cases got like 20 corner goals and 10 indirect free kicks, but those are outliers (however, pretty achievable for teams with better players).
Sanfierro said: By the way, a bug from the FM 2005 era just came to my mind and I wanted to mention it because i think it's related to the topic.
In FM 2005, when the match kicked off, if you clicked on the “overview” panel and checked the fixture, you could actually see the final score of the match before it ended. And when the match finished, it always ended with exactly the score shown there. This shows that the score is determined the moment the match kicks off.
They fixed it quickly with a patch, but since Steam wasn’t really popular back then, updates didn’t reach everyone instantly like they do today. So I remember playing with that bug for quite a long time.
I’m not even sure much has changed since then. Not being sure is the scary part. We should be sure about this after 20 years, but SI just doesn't work that way. jesus christ man, SI should’ve gone bankrupt decades ago. They’ve been putting us on this shitshow for 20 years. Thankfully, with FM 26 this whole show is finally over, and at this point waiting for moves from competitor studios makes more sense than waiting for FM 27 tbh. Expand
Results are not determined at the start of the match. That is pretty easy to check, you can simply start with a very bad tactic, then change to a very good one after 5 or 10 minutes, and result will be consistent with the good tactic.
max 737 said: Can anyone explain how does one tactic which has worked so well on one save completely stops work on a new save? Expand
Even the best tactics go on blackout every now and then, sometimes staying five or more matches without winning. What matters is that they recover and go back to overachieving.
Kaczy said: Would you be so nice and upload save energy variant?
I am quite deep in my save advancing from 7th tier to PL and what i have notice that prefer leg is important at least for WBs. I was using simular tactic and when i played left WB right footed he have much less assists compering to left footed. I do not see diference in case of BCB but common sense is telling me that left BCB should play left foot , right BCB should play right foot and central BCB should play both legs - i dont know if this have impact in game at all. Wingers in my opinion should be right footed on left and left footed on right since in many cases they cut into penalty area to middle and shoot. But from other hand their passes and crosses into penalty area would be worst - i will try to test this in incoming seson. Expand
Kaczy said: Great work as always @ZaZ i will post results after first seson in PL after i advanced from CH - playing FC United of Manchester so it gonna be fun
Questions :
1.Do you guys change your mentality depending when you are playing away or you are underdog?
2.Do you guys using some less intesive versions when you are leading or more defensive when you want to protec result? Or are you changing mentality in this case?
3.BCB - better leg dosent matter? Or that on right should have better right leg and same on left?
4.WB - same question ?
5. Wingers - same question?
BR Expand
I have a variant to use when I am winning by a safe margin, to save energy and avoid cards. I will test different mentalities to see if any is worth using to concede less goals.
About leg, I don't see much difference in any position. Someone made a post recently saying it does, though.
max 737 said: @ZaZ Last question, do you recommend Winter or Autumn playing with Arsenal against say a side like Liverpool also changing a tactic all of a sudden would it hamper the familiarity? Expand
I think Autumn would perform better, but this is just a wild guess. About changing tactics, they do affect familiarity, but I am not sure how much that affects results. Keep in mind familiarity is broken down in several pieces, and most of them would be kept maximum even if you change from Winter to Autumn, because most team instructions are the same.
mikaty said: I have tested this tactic in 3 different saves Expand
But don't expect the testing server is working at its full capacity at the begging.
We're planning to start at slow pace to be sure that everything works as intended and polish things.
Hi,
Thank you for your suggestion.
But to be honest right now at the begging we aren't looking to do something fancy, we are focused just on on bringing the basic functionally up and running, then at some point later we can consider bringing something more robust and fancy. Expand
Fair, I was just giving an idea for the future. The top priority should be to start.
Personally I see little difference, so I only use player footing to break ties if players are equally skilled for the position. However, keep in mind someone made a study with player footing for FM24 and said there was a noticeable difference for Winger. There is no evidence that it applies to FM26, but you can read about it in the link below.
https://fm-arena.com/thread/16012-fm24-impact-of-left-and-right-feet-in-various-positions-and-tactics-my-test-result-for-can-opposite-foot-be-used/
Thanks! It will hardly last more than a day, but at least it shows the direction is good. Makes me more excited to work in Winter 0.3.
Need to create a specific thread for them to test here. It doesn't make sense for me to test, since FM-Arena usually has much more accuracy.
I’ve been playing around with one of your older tactics myself, and I’ve noticed that your base settings really help lay the foundation for creating new tactics. I’ve actually developed a 3-5-2 that works super well — I finished 4th with Sunderland in the first season.
I tried sending you a PM, but you don’t have any more space to receive messages
I hope it’s not too much trouble 😊
There.
Regarding this tactic, I would like to change 3 strikers to attacking midfielders. Is there a role you would recommend for the 3 attacking midfielders?
What do you think about the opinion that a tactic without a striker is better for this series?
I tried something like that before, but results where unfortunately worse. If you still want to try it, check Summer 0.2, it has CHM (AM) / TWM. Another role you can try is CHM (AM) / CM.
It is my first seson in PL. I am used to get promotion every year from low leagues up to highest one but i never had such good 1st year in PL.
Probably i will win PL when team will reach higher cohesion.
My players are L1-CH lvl , 3-4 of them low PL lvl and i have one wonderkid but he is playing like shiet.
Results after 10 PL games - i lost with MU in CUP couse i was playing B team.
Most terryfing that those bunch of noname players are completly dominating other teams. AI do not know how to play against such hudge intensivity and attacking football. Games are totally one sided ofc beside Brighton. All of them it is total dominance check 3-3 against MU.
I am also using your set pieces and acctually i score more goals in this seson from set pieces then in 6 sesons while i was climbing to PL and i was always winning league.
Great work once again.
Thank you, and good luck in the league!
Glad it is working well. Are you using the set pieces too?
I tested with my four tactics, and all got a noticeable boost in average points and goal difference. I can only assume it works for any tactic.
Gratz! I was considering only the League. If we put together all competitions, then goals from set pieces get even higher. I would estimate them to be around ~20% of total goals of the season.
The reupload is below. I also changed mentality from Winter Light to Balanced, and reuploaded it in the first post.
Thank you!
Results depend a lot on the team, because of the characteristic of the players. Keep in mind I tested with teams predicted for middle of the table and last place (Like Nottingham Forest and Burnley). For corners, results range from 10-15, and indirect free kicks were 5-6 per season. Some cases got like 20 corner goals and 10 indirect free kicks, but those are outliers (however, pretty achievable for teams with better players).
In FM 2005, when the match kicked off, if you clicked on the “overview” panel and checked the fixture, you could actually see the final score of the match before it ended. And when the match finished, it always ended with exactly the score shown there. This shows that the score is determined the moment the match kicks off.
They fixed it quickly with a patch, but since Steam wasn’t really popular back then, updates didn’t reach everyone instantly like they do today. So I remember playing with that bug for quite a long time.
I’m not even sure much has changed since then. Not being sure is the scary part. We should be sure about this after 20 years, but SI just doesn't work that way.
jesus christ man, SI should’ve gone bankrupt decades ago. They’ve been putting us on this shitshow for 20 years. Thankfully, with FM 26 this whole show is finally over, and at this point waiting for moves from competitor studios makes more sense than waiting for FM 27 tbh.
Results are not determined at the start of the match. That is pretty easy to check, you can simply start with a very bad tactic, then change to a very good one after 5 or 10 minutes, and result will be consistent with the good tactic.
I added screenshots to the second post.
Glad you like it! I will add the set pieces to the first post, it makes both tactics much better.
Even the best tactics go on blackout every now and then, sometimes staying five or more matches without winning. What matters is that they recover and go back to overachieving.
I am quite deep in my save advancing from 7th tier to PL and what i have notice that prefer leg is important at least for WBs. I was using simular tactic and when i played left WB right footed he have much less assists compering to left footed.
I do not see diference in case of BCB but common sense is telling me that left BCB should play left foot , right BCB should play right foot and central BCB should play both legs - i dont know if this have impact in game at all.
Wingers in my opinion should be right footed on left and left footed on right since in many cases they cut into penalty area to middle and shoot. But from other hand their passes and crosses into penalty area would be worst - i will try to test this in incoming seson.
I will add to the first message of the post.
Questions :
1.Do you guys change your mentality depending when you are playing away or you are underdog?
2.Do you guys using some less intesive versions when you are leading or more defensive when you want to protec result? Or are you changing mentality in this case?
3.BCB - better leg dosent matter? Or that on right should have better right leg and same on left?
4.WB - same question ?
5. Wingers - same question?
BR
I have a variant to use when I am winning by a safe margin, to save energy and avoid cards. I will test different mentalities to see if any is worth using to concede less goals.
About leg, I don't see much difference in any position. Someone made a post recently saying it does, though.
I think Autumn would perform better, but this is just a wild guess. About changing tactics, they do affect familiarity, but I am not sure how much that affects results. Keep in mind familiarity is broken down in several pieces, and most of them would be kept maximum even if you change from Winter to Autumn, because most team instructions are the same.
mikaty said: I have tested this tactic in 3 different saves
How did it go?
Sure, it's also coming.
But don't expect the testing server is working at its full capacity at the begging.
We're planning to start at slow pace to be sure that everything works as intended and polish things.
Hi,
Thank you for your suggestion.
But to be honest right now at the begging we aren't looking to do something fancy, we are focused just on on bringing the basic functionally up and running, then at some point later we can consider bringing something more robust and fancy.
Fair, I was just giving an idea for the future. The top priority should be to start.