max 737 said: Thanks, but your tactic is smashing it mate, its the best tactic currently on the FM Expand
Thanks! I just mean you can train up to three tactics at once, and it might be worthy to setup one of those slots for a more defensive tactic with the same formation, for matches in which you want to hold a score. I will do some tests for a defensive version of this tactic, focused in conceding less goals without losing much win rate.
max 737 said: Do you mean you start off on defensive mentality and go to very attacking when need goals? Expand
No, I mean "Attacking" is already the mentality that concedes the least with this tactic. If you want to concede less, it is better to switch to some tactic with the same formation and less goals conceded, like this: https://fm-arena.com/thread/19142-swaps/
Snsnnsjsjs said: I have a question, if you are a worse team should u play on cautious, balanced? Expand
I tested positive here, and it not only had a lower win rate, but also conceded more goals than attacking. I did not test balanced and cautious here, but in my personal tests it did not do very well. That is why I prefer to do this tactic as the default defensive, and adjust to very attacking only if I need to score more goals.
max 737 said: The only tactic I manage win the the club world cup with, I lose only 1 game in 4 seasons invincible in 3 seasons. Win 8 trophies in 1 season. Unbelievable tactic Expand
Thank you for testing! Glad it is working well for you.
Most tactics of the first page are equally good. The difference of 0.1 pt per season is not enough to make a noticeable difference, so it is all about what kind of game the player wants to see in the field.
You can also use Growth 2 in weeks with two matches. My recommendation is 3 Growths for 1 Rebalance, and I gave versions for one and two matches to make it easier to set up under any condition. If you have a week too busy (like three matches), you can move Rebalance to that week since it is easier to fit with super-rest after the matches.
Ajax said: Hi ZaZ, I have a question about the training schedules.
How should we use:
* Growth 1 / Growth 2 * Rebalance 1 / Rebalance 2
depending on the number of matches per week?
For example:
* 0 match in the week * 1 match in the week * 2 matches in the week
Which schedule should we use in each situation? And should we alternate between 1 and 2 every week?
Thanks 🙂 Expand
The numbers 1 and 2 are reference for the number of matches in the week (that means you use 1 when you have 1 match, and 2 when you have two matches). If you have a week with zero matches, you can either book a friendly match to keep match sharpness, or if you want to rest your players you can just use either Growth or Rebalance 1, and fill up empty days with one session of Recovery (to avoid drop in match sharpness).
I will rename them to "Growth - 1 Match" and "Growth - 2 Matches" to avoid confusion.
ccww said: I used Zaz's tactics, training program, and set-piece strategy. In my first season at Fenerbahçe, I won all the trophies. In big matches and tough away games, I only played defensively and with balance. I took control of the matches in the first 45 minutes and kept morale high with substitutions. It was a very enjoyable career, and at the beginning of my career, I made three transfers that suited my tactical system: Enzo Boyomo for 10 million plus 30 million in installments, Moussa Diaby on a free transfer, and Lewis Skelly on loan. It was truly a great tactic, thank you.@ZaZ Expand
Thank you for sharing, and glad you enjoyed the season!
P.S.: Semi-finals against Arsenal seems to have been pretty intense!
A high intensity tactic that scores goals from inside the box, with most assists from the middle. Goals and assists are well distributed between all players.
Player Instructions, Opponent Instructions and Light VersionPlayer Instructions All: Tackle Harder BCB: Pass Shorter, Trigger Press More Often OCB: Shoot Less Often, Take More Risks, Pass Shorter, Trigger Press Less Often AWB: Sit Narrower, Cross From Byline and Shoot Less Often, Trigger Press More Often IF: Stay Wider CHF: Make Fewer Runs
Opponent Instructions Only recommend people to use if they know what they are doing. You can read about how I use opponent instructions here.
Defensive Tactic The goal of this version is to hold a score without a noticeable cost of performance. Use when you want to concede less goals. You can also change mentality to Balanced to concede even less goals, at some small cost of performance. https://fm-arena.com/thread/19358-zaz-autumn-3-51-st-solid/
Light Version The goal of this version is to preserve players, saving condition while avoiding injuries and cards, at the cost of performance. Use when you have a comfortable lead. All: Ease Off Tackle Team Instructions: Balanced mentality, Stay On Feet, one step below in Trigger Press and Tempo.
Training and Set Pieces
You can read more about my suggested training schedules here. Schedules Ideally split 3:1 during the season, with Rebalance is used around once a month. Rebalance ([Resistance]): Redistributes CA among the most important attributes. Growth ([Physical]x5[Attacking]x5 for one match or [Physical]x2[Attacking]x2 for two matches): Improves secondary attributes, with focus on key attributes.
Rest and Recovery Three Rest sessions are used after every match to trigger super-rest, and Recovery sessions are used to reduce the loss of match sharpness in days without training.
Automatic Intensity Double when full energy, and no pitch or gym training when below full condition.
Individual Focus Quickness, or Agility/Reactions for goalkeepers
Roles Not needed, but you can pick any role with highlighted Pace and Acceleration to train new positions
Set pieces and training are in the attachments. Pictures for people on consoles are below.
For youth teams, I usually do just the rebalance routine (Resistance x1), to ensure players grow Pace and Acceleration without compromising their potential attributes.
Preferred Player AttributesTop priority: Pace and Acceleration are by far the most effective attributes. Minimum requirements: 6 in Work Rate, Agility, Concentration and Stamina. These attributes hurt a lot when low, but do not improve performance significantly at higher values. Only look below if still in doubt between two players. Priority #2: Jumping Reach (especially for defenders). Secondary requirements: 10 in Balance, Dribbling (especially for flank players), Work Rate and Anticipation. Only look below if still in doubt between two players. Priority #3: Dribbling and balance.
Example of ideal player Pace: 18+++ Acceleration: 18+++ Work Rate: 10 Agility: 6 Concentration: 6 Stamina: 6 Anticipation: 10 Jumping Reach: 10++ Dribbling: 10+ Balance: 10+
There are two player filters in the attachments. You can use them in Recruitment > Player Database > Edit Search, loading them in the cog icon by the bottom left. One filter is to remove bad players, while the other is to show very good players (but might filter out some good outliers).
Credits to everyone in FM-Arena who did small experiments which gave hints to what might be working well in this patch. Probably there will be a better tactic inspired by this one in the next hours or days, so I am just happy to contribute.
Sujuki said: What do you do, if a game does not go as you want? What do you change? Is there anything? Expand
I always switch out players with low rate during half time, then it is all about encouragement and praying. You can also switch to Very Attacking if you are too desperate.
lopesmane08 said: How do you go about the striker players at a new save? Slowly start to ditch them out and then focus on only integrating attacking midfielders? Expand
It depends on the team. If one of them has AMC (or LR) proficiency, it can be used in that position. If some of them is way too good, I might retrain to AMC. Other than that, they become cash to improve the team.
keleboo said: Are the pitch dimensions suitable for your tactic? Expand
Maximum size is better for attacking, while minimum size is better for defending. I prefer maximum size because it benefits the better tactics, which use space better.
Ajax said: Hi, I don't know how you do it—I've tried, and I'm in February, right in the middle of the season, and it's really tough. Expand
Some seasons can be above or below average, but if you just load a new game and run the tactic in holiday mode, without any setup, it should be able to get at least in Europa League, on average. But again, sometimes everything goes wrong and you just end in the middle of the table, that cannot be helped.
Thanks! I just mean you can train up to three tactics at once, and it might be worthy to setup one of those slots for a more defensive tactic with the same formation, for matches in which you want to hold a score. I will do some tests for a defensive version of this tactic, focused in conceding less goals without losing much win rate.
No, I mean "Attacking" is already the mentality that concedes the least with this tactic. If you want to concede less, it is better to switch to some tactic with the same formation and less goals conceded, like this: https://fm-arena.com/thread/19142-swaps/
I tested positive here, and it not only had a lower win rate, but also conceded more goals than attacking. I did not test balanced and cautious here, but in my personal tests it did not do very well. That is why I prefer to do this tactic as the default defensive, and adjust to very attacking only if I need to score more goals.
Thank you for testing! Glad it is working well for you.
Tiago Simoes said: @max 737 Do you think this is the best tactic for this version right now?
Most tactics of the first page are equally good. The difference of 0.1 pt per season is not enough to make a noticeable difference, so it is all about what kind of game the player wants to see in the field.
Are you talking about me or the author?
Thank you! The community here is pretty friendly, so all I do is answer what people ask.
danielos2344 said: Hi. Files with training schedules is not working
Ohh, it might be the special characters. I will remove the parenthesis and reupload. Thank you for letting me know!
P.S.: Done!
Growth 1
1 match
Growth 1
2 matchs
Rebalance 2 ??
You can also use Growth 2 in weeks with two matches. My recommendation is 3 Growths for 1 Rebalance, and I gave versions for one and two matches to make it easier to set up under any condition. If you have a week too busy (like three matches), you can move Rebalance to that week since it is easier to fit with super-rest after the matches.
I have a question about the training schedules.
How should we use:
* Growth 1 / Growth 2
* Rebalance 1 / Rebalance 2
depending on the number of matches per week?
For example:
* 0 match in the week
* 1 match in the week
* 2 matches in the week
Which schedule should we use in each situation?
And should we alternate between 1 and 2 every week?
Thanks 🙂
The numbers 1 and 2 are reference for the number of matches in the week (that means you use 1 when you have 1 match, and 2 when you have two matches). If you have a week with zero matches, you can either book a friendly match to keep match sharpness, or if you want to rest your players you can just use either Growth or Rebalance 1, and fill up empty days with one session of Recovery (to avoid drop in match sharpness).
I will rename them to "Growth - 1 Match" and "Growth - 2 Matches" to avoid confusion.
Finally got past 80 pts with a tactic with striker.
https://fm-arena.com/thread/19215-zaz-autumn-3-39-st/
Thank you for sharing, and glad you enjoyed the season!
P.S.: Semi-finals against Arsenal seems to have been pretty intense!
A high intensity tactic that scores goals from inside the box, with most assists from the middle. Goals and assists are well distributed between all players.
Player Instructions, Opponent Instructions and Light Version Player Instructions
All: Tackle Harder
BCB: Pass Shorter, Trigger Press More Often
OCB: Shoot Less Often, Take More Risks, Pass Shorter, Trigger Press Less Often
AWB: Sit Narrower, Cross From Byline and Shoot Less Often, Trigger Press More Often
IF: Stay Wider
CHF: Make Fewer Runs
Opponent Instructions
Only recommend people to use if they know what they are doing. You can read about how I use opponent instructions here.
Defensive Tactic
The goal of this version is to hold a score without a noticeable cost of performance. Use when you want to concede less goals. You can also change mentality to Balanced to concede even less goals, at some small cost of performance.
https://fm-arena.com/thread/19358-zaz-autumn-3-51-st-solid/
Light Version
The goal of this version is to preserve players, saving condition while avoiding injuries and cards, at the cost of performance. Use when you have a comfortable lead.
All: Ease Off Tackle
Team Instructions: Balanced mentality, Stay On Feet, one step below in Trigger Press and Tempo.
Training and Set Pieces You can read more about my suggested training schedules here.
Schedules
Ideally split 3:1 during the season, with Rebalance is used around once a month.
Rebalance ([Resistance]): Redistributes CA among the most important attributes.
Growth ([Physical]x5[Attacking]x5 for one match or [Physical]x2[Attacking]x2 for two matches): Improves secondary attributes, with focus on key attributes.
Rest and Recovery
Three Rest sessions are used after every match to trigger super-rest, and Recovery sessions are used to reduce the loss of match sharpness in days without training.
Automatic Intensity
Double when full energy, and no pitch or gym training when below full condition.
Individual Focus
Quickness, or Agility/Reactions for goalkeepers
Roles
Not needed, but you can pick any role with highlighted Pace and Acceleration to train new positions
Set pieces and training are in the attachments. Pictures for people on consoles are below.
For youth teams, I usually do just the rebalance routine (Resistance x1), to ensure players grow Pace and Acceleration without compromising their potential attributes.
Preferred Player Attributes Top priority: Pace and Acceleration are by far the most effective attributes.
Minimum requirements: 6 in Work Rate, Agility, Concentration and Stamina. These attributes hurt a lot when low, but do not improve performance significantly at higher values.
Only look below if still in doubt between two players.
Priority #2: Jumping Reach (especially for defenders).
Secondary requirements: 10 in Balance, Dribbling (especially for flank players), Work Rate and Anticipation.
Only look below if still in doubt between two players.
Priority #3: Dribbling and balance.
Example of ideal player
Pace: 18+++
Acceleration: 18+++
Work Rate: 10
Agility: 6
Concentration: 6
Stamina: 6
Anticipation: 10
Jumping Reach: 10++
Dribbling: 10+
Balance: 10+
There are two player filters in the attachments. You can use them in Recruitment > Player Database > Edit Search, loading them in the cog icon by the bottom left. One filter is to remove bad players, while the other is to show very good players (but might filter out some good outliers).
Credits to everyone in FM-Arena who did small experiments which gave hints to what might be working well in this patch. Probably there will be a better tactic inspired by this one in the next hours or days, so I am just happy to contribute.
I always switch out players with low rate during half time, then it is all about encouragement and praying. You can also switch to Very Attacking if you are too desperate.
It depends on the team. If one of them has AMC (or LR) proficiency, it can be used in that position. If some of them is way too good, I might retrain to AMC. Other than that, they become cash to improve the team.
Maximum size is better for attacking, while minimum size is better for defending. I prefer maximum size because it benefits the better tactics, which use space better.
Ajax said: Hi, I don't know how you do it—I've tried, and I'm in February, right in the middle of the season, and it's really tough.
Some seasons can be above or below average, but if you just load a new game and run the tactic in holiday mode, without any setup, it should be able to get at least in Europa League, on average. But again, sometimes everything goes wrong and you just end in the middle of the table, that cannot be helped.