NoSignal said: Can u add screenshots for player instructions, team instructions and set pieces? I want to try this on switch where i cant Just pug tactic. Expand
Will do, when I get a break in my testing. Should be in the next 2 hours
ZaZ said: Just added a version for underdog teams. In vacation mode with Norwich, it can consistently take them to Euro Cup (around 10 points per season more than normal Red and 20 goal difference better). @Mark, let me know if you can try this one in the lower leagues. =) Expand
I have bumped it up the queue - running now. Should be available in an hour and a quarter depending where I am up to with my bread making.
I have tested 6 tactics today since the release. Selected tactics based on a combination of Eric's testing and my Beta testing. Ran the tactic in 5 divisions with sides that were all 33/1 with the bookmakers and rated between 16 and 20 with the media. L1 Shrewsbury, L2 Carlisle, VNL Halifax, VNN Southport and VNS Hungerford.
Here are the results.
You will notice that Electro and Arrowhead had less games. Electro Manager was sacked by Shrewsbury after 37 League games and Arrowhead Manager was sacked after just 14 games by Hungerford. This probably meant they faired better than they would have given their under performing team didn't play out the season. Next to test is ZaZ Red 1.0 and then the remainder of the tactics of interest.
As always my interest is lower league sides so there are columns for Non League PPM and Rank. The main column of interest should be PPM. I do find it interesting in my tests to date that no one formation is dominating so far with this release.
I haven't tested at League 2. Try it until you have a few losses. Use Electro and 442RMD in the other slots and then try them. All three are very good tactics
Going back and analyzing I think Dragons Den is best for very bad sides, then Electra takes over. In English Leagues Dragons Dens best below Vanarama National League. Which means my testing doesnt work above that level. Thinking back that is what started me testing in FM21. I only play lower league Sides.
I adapted the TFF Cerber with lessons learned from the FM22 Beta to produce this tactic. Seems to test pretty well winning 2 of the 3 leagues I tested with side ranked to finish in the relegation zone. Testing would indicate it is good with underdog and lower league teams.
It tested well but not great with me. I holiday test with 3 very lowly ranked sides in Vanarama National, North and South. Electro is still well clear. All the numbers are averages between the 3 comps.
ZaZ said: I have two versions of Red 0.4 (also known as "All Mid" ), one with and another without mark tighter. I'm not sure which one is better (I believe 0.4b), so I appreciate if anyone can test and give me some second opinion. Player stats are from best XI, since team was picked by assistant manager.
P.S.: I got the idea to use IWB-At from @momentaryblink. Red 0.3 also used two Vol-At, but performance was lower because of IWB-Su. When I saw his Arrowhead, I just changed my IWB to At and results got better.
Red 0.4, without using tighter marking:
Red 0.4b, using tighter marking: Expand
You have moved away from using Target Forwards. I will give your tactics a try in the next few days. I do like a couple of formations in the new game and one is yours. the 4-2-2-2 wide I think works well. The other is combinations of Electro, a 4-2-3-1 or some derivatives of it like 4-1-3-1-1 or 4-1-2-1-1. I think the defensive back 4 are pretty set, Inverted WB or WB Support or Attack with 2 DCs BPD Defend. So I think there has been plenty of progress through the Beta period so far. Time will tell if these hold but I suspect they will. There really hasn't been a major flaw unearthed that would make them change the match engine yet like a corner or throw in routine that happened the last few years.
I have had a bit of a look at @Eric results to try and see if there are any patterns. I have excluded the tactics where he hasn't tested for a full season. I have also started testing them in my lower league tests. Here are the results from @Eric Tests.
I have focused on the teams that have either made 2 points per game or had a goal difference of over one goal per game.
Hey @Droid I am hearing you on this. My top metric is Points Per Match. And on that metric the 3 tactics I have uploaded are in the top 6 on Eric's tests. I know the testing isnt perfect but my analysis will appear in @ZaZ Log in the next day or 2. For now, Enjoy that tactic man, it is damn good
Is there any way you could test this one with Tottenham for me @Eric as it was marginally better for me than TFF Cerber and Dragons Breathe which both went pretty well in your testing. Thanks
Will do, when I get a break in my testing. Should be in the next 2 hours
I have bumped it up the queue - running now. Should be available in an hour and a quarter depending where I am up to with my bread making.
Here are the results.
You will notice that Electro and Arrowhead had less games. Electro Manager was sacked by Shrewsbury after 37 League games and Arrowhead Manager was sacked after just 14 games by Hungerford. This probably meant they faired better than they would have given their under performing team didn't play out the season. Next to test is ZaZ Red 1.0 and then the remainder of the tactics of interest.
As always my interest is lower league sides so there are columns for Non League PPM and Rank. The main column of interest should be PPM. I do find it interesting in my tests to date that no one formation is dominating so far with this release.
Hope this helps someone.
P.S.: I got the idea to use IWB-At from @momentaryblink. Red 0.3 also used two Vol-At, but performance was lower because of IWB-Su. When I saw his Arrowhead, I just changed my IWB to At and results got better.
Red 0.4, without using tighter marking:
Red 0.4b, using tighter marking:
You have moved away from using Target Forwards. I will give your tactics a try in the next few days. I do like a couple of formations in the new game and one is yours. the 4-2-2-2 wide I think works well. The other is combinations of Electro, a 4-2-3-1 or some derivatives of it like 4-1-3-1-1 or 4-1-2-1-1. I think the defensive back 4 are pretty set, Inverted WB or WB Support or Attack with 2 DCs BPD Defend. So I think there has been plenty of progress through the Beta period so far. Time will tell if these hold but I suspect they will. There really hasn't been a major flaw unearthed that would make them change the match engine yet like a corner or throw in routine that happened the last few years.
I have focused on the teams that have either made 2 points per game or had a goal difference of over one goal per game.
I hope this helps someone