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ta2199 said: nevermind, It's just something weird happened during my Bayer04 save. I try again with Lazio and It lookin fine

Probably some players with bad hidden stats, like Dirtness, or just bad luck. Thank you for trying to help, anyway.
Red 2.0 was added, being not just an improvement, but a change in identity to make it behave different from Blue during the match.
ta2199 said: I know but I have " Red Cards Issue " with v2.0. I mean a lots of red cards

Is it happening on the shadow strikers or other positions? With me, I usually get between one to two red cards a season, which isn't unexpected for any tactic.
ta2199 said: I suggested remove tackle hard in both AMC and instead add mark tigher

Thank you for the suggestion. Too bad it's too small of a change to show much difference on my tests. They won't test it here either since it would be almost the same, so I will never know if it's better or not.
DB8 said: Hello Zealot and all the other guys. I want to ask you somethung about this great tactic...

What can we do about the general training and individual training? Do we let the assistant manager to take care of them or do we do somethig else?


I like to train Match Practice twice a week, as well as Teamwork, Defensive Shape and Attacking Movement before every match. If I only have one match in the week, I also add one Physical. Before important matches, I set one session for Set Piece Delivery and if possible, Attacking Corners and Attacking Free Kick. The rest is flexible, but I like to set Recovery after every match for injury prevention and Team Bonding for squad happiness.
I just uploaded Blue 2.0, on the first post.
This is another "just for fun" tactic, trying to explore absurd possibilities. It is named Seraph because it has six wings. Not only it won the Premier League in holiday mode, but also the Champions League.

OpticFawn said: @ta2199 So which one do you prefer?

Blue or Phoenix?

and what version on phoenix do you use or which one gave you the best results?

thx


The top three tactics are equally good, that's why they are all grade 7.0. The difference between them might very well be statistical noise, since none of them was better in all three tests than the other two tactics. Maybe with a couple more tests, the order would even change.
@healmuth, when you have spare time, can you test team instructions work ball into box vs. Hit early crosses vs. None? They are giving me very similar results, which makes me wonder if they make any difference at all. Actually, I am getting slightly better with early crosses, scoring more goals. (I am testing on blue strategy, without any other changes)
Screenshot of tactics and results are required.
Nice to see some 3 defender tactics. I hope it goes well!
I hope this performs well. I also started using Roll It Out because my goalkeeper conceded a couple of goals kicking in the back of opponent and hitting it's own target (with extremely weak team).
Mornon said: Simply insane... Can't wait to test it with an underdog team.

It was nothing special in the test, but enough to beat all tactics that use real forwards.
healmuth said: apparently you and me have accomplished mind-melt :p

I am pretty satisfied with what I accomplished this patch. Blue is one of the top tactics while Phoenix is a tweak of Red. In the end, I feel like I contributed somehow, but the greatest contribution this patch was @Cyborg with his strikerless Doom. I feel like he deserves more recognition.
Not sure if you people know, but I can't register or use most of the site content on Edge, even without Ad-blocker. I assume it is because of the Ad-blocker that is built-in, but I am not sure if more people experience the same issue. I use the phone to post here since Edge doesn't work.
I know I said I gave up on this patch, but I have decided to try some crazy ideas just for fun. This one is a true strikerless. Probably sucks, but someone has to try it anyway.



Funny enough, it won the league in holiday mode without a single loss.

healmuth said: I believe I finally might have something even better - but some testing still needs to be done before releasing it

Anything new or just small tweaks?
The results are worse than expected, despite looking better in my tests and healmuth's. Good thing I have decided to only try new tactics next patch, because it really seems like the best tactic right now is tied to that play style from the three first positions in the table. I really wanted to see different variations that could be used depending on player abilities, but I have no clue what to try anymore. I hope next patch allows some variations with similar results.
Nikko said: I think people do that because it's fun! :)

Who said that he tested something? He just played the game as he liked and had fun. He really don't owe you anything...


I guess he means those teams will win everything as long as you don't get in the way or play without goalkeeper. It's like those tactics with 3.0 or less that comes in a post "Quadruple with Real Madrid". Fun to play, but nothing to be overexcited.
healmuth said: I'm happy to try it when i have some time but based on the results posted, this doesn't look incredibly promising.


When I see any tactic with forwards, AML/AMR, IW or without IWB, I already know it's subpar. I kinda hope to see a good one anytime, but it's hard to be optimistic in this patch. I am really happy Cyan worked well, because I would go crazy if I had to watch one more match with Blue, Phoenix or Voila, which all play the same way in practice.