sponsorkindest said: Remove pass into space and 7 additional points. I suspect RNG god at play here Expand While I agree with @Delicious above, "Pass Into Space" seems to do little after the update.
NandaldiaN said: Sorry just followed the topic you both were talking about and wanted to help Expand It's okay but you can create a new thread at the link above so others who might be interested in your routines can join in.
letsgo9 said: This post is improving alot my tactics, lol. I started to give individual instructions to my players based on this, works wonderful Expand I'm glad they're working. If you want, try different traits and different PIs to find other combinations. What I wrote above are the obvious ones. I'm sure there are more combinations of other traits that definitely encourage some PIs that I didn't write down.
I've just started some other tests at the moment and can't continue this. Any help is appreciated
sponsorkindest said: damn, offensive tactics took a hit, it feels like though there was nothing called out in the patch notes Expand SI might fixed defence that's why
prideoffm said: Hi, is the attribute testing is going to be retested due to the new patch 24.2 or it will not make any significant difference from the previous patch? Expand I don't think so.
letsgo9 said: Yeah, im not in a hurry. Just asking coz it seems that the symetrical box is on top again Expand I think in every new update they retest all HoF tactics.
Delicious said: Ye, i do understand that's useless to even go futher on gegenpress point, if he still can't understand how demanding gegen-press is/was isn't really my problem at this point.
- If people waste more time to check in-game what's going on and before to spouting a sentence, i wouldn't even say nothing. But that's not the case, usually my motto is "let them be".
So @dzek, will try to sentence this in a very easy concept :
YOU, after your favorite "company" announced while FM23 was running, FM25-Unity revolution - tons of marketing blabering, hold on , what about FM24?
It was like, marketing speaking they said : another "database Update" ; you can accept or deny it.
So, for me is already more then what i was literally expecting from the very beginning.
Now, you were attracted from their FM24 marketing campain, you are right about: you want what they promissed, i don't even know which point of their missing feature is disturbing you that much, to go nuts, but in a perfect world you would be right, but that's far from perfect.
- They already, mess-up again the "condition of players". IF gegen-press is so low-demanding system on stamina, why it affect like that in game then?
Who should i thank for that? You? But from my little understanding you saying the contrary, so it's hard to believe that they listening your "reports".
Do you believe that's is easy task to filtrer all the pile of feedback they receiving from their clients pool?
After you answear to your self this point, let go to the next one : How much of those feedback are considerated "garbage" to them? Why should i (SI company) should i listen to you instead of another client, in reality why should i even consider "feedbacks" when i have all my well paid testers.
Guess going any further then this is pretty time wasting. Expand Unfortunately the more you elaborate on the thread the more you make me think it's a complete waste of time discussing it with you.
That would be the ideal scenario @Mark but when there are such attitudes, for me at least, I can't collaborate with those kind of people and also this isn't the first time. Good behavior comes first and then our "works"!
Shyul said: Is there a database i can get on fm-arena that is considered high quality? i'm guessing if i test on the big leagues the results might not be as scientific as if i were to do the test on a custom database Expand No there isnt any database here you can get and start testing. Except from a custom database you need to freeze morale, condition and attributes to any player so you will also need FMRTE to do this.
Mark said: @Delicious and @dzek. Lads I appreciate your work on this site. It is mostly positive and helpful. I am a retired grandfather of 9. I live in a country that has 3 football games that have a bigger following than football (what we call soccer). I spend my time doing a fair bit of voluntary work and trying to get my grandkids to understand respect and enjoy the more simple things in life like bush walks.
I have been playing FM since it was CM. I honestly think you should both stop now. There is nothing to be gained in pursuing this debate. Expand I agree. It would be good to have a constructive dialogue, to hear everyone's opinion but everyone can see where some people are going with their words.
Floppyaams said: As a Liverpool fan, this can't be further from the truth. Yes we pressed more than 20218/2019 in 2019/2020 but our pressing numbers were still lower than Klopp's beginning seasons. Expand Because they had more time on the ball instead of chasing it. I think this makes sense. If not I cant say anything more.
Floppyaams said: Manchester City is the exception, not the norm. Also, I would attribute their exception to their ability to retain possession so well. No other team in the world can dominate possession like them. Expand No it's not. Man City is combining Gegenpress + Control Possession in a level that they can do whatever they like. They can press in the whole game. I think this makes sense too.
Floppyaams said: Lastly, this is the most puzzling part for me because it's just a blatant lie, we did not have only 13-15 players in the season we won the league. We had a really strong bench during our UCL winning and EPL winning campaigns. We had a pretty good bench of Chamberlain, Keita, Lallana, Origi, Shaqiri, Lorvren, Milner, Gomez and some youth players. Most Liverpool fans still consider this to be the best bench we have had in recent times. Expand When I say he had 13-15 players all season I don't mean that there were that many players in the team but if you look at every game he played with the same eleven.
Delicious said: And we do expect SI, to filter all the garbage is coming towards them... Expand Look at a gentleman who wants to have a serious and constructive dialogue!
An updated version of iBox V2.0b.
Team Instructions
- Added: Overlaps, Step Up More
- Removed: Distribute To Centre-Backs, Slow Pace Down
Tweaks on all PIs.
Hahaha
While I agree with @Delicious above, "Pass Into Space" seems to do little after the update.
It's okay but you can create a new thread at the link above so others who might be interested in your routines can join in.
edit: its still december in my save btw
Please open a new thread here - https://fm-arena.com/board/13-set-piece-sharing-section/ and share your set pieces because here is a general discussion about FM.
Do you use your own routines or do you leave it to your assistant?
You concede or score?
I'm glad they're working. If you want, try different traits and different PIs to find other combinations. What I wrote above are the obvious ones. I'm sure there are more combinations of other traits that definitely encourage some PIs that I didn't write down.
I've just started some other tests at the moment and can't continue this. Any help is appreciated
SI might fixed defence that's why
I don't think so.
I think in every new update they retest all HoF tactics.
They will bro, be patient
Well done 👏
- If people waste more time to check in-game what's going on and before to spouting a sentence, i wouldn't even say nothing. But that's not the case, usually my motto is "let them be".
So @dzek, will try to sentence this in a very easy concept :
YOU, after your favorite "company" announced while FM23 was running, FM25-Unity revolution - tons of marketing blabering, hold on , what about FM24?
It was like, marketing speaking they said : another "database Update" ; you can accept or deny it.
So, for me is already more then what i was literally expecting from the very beginning.
Now, you were attracted from their FM24 marketing campain, you are right about: you want what they promissed, i don't even know which point of their missing feature is disturbing you that much, to go nuts, but in a perfect world you would be right, but that's far from perfect.
- They already, mess-up again the "condition of players".
IF gegen-press is so low-demanding system on stamina, why it affect like that in game then?
Who should i thank for that? You? But from my little understanding you saying the contrary, so it's hard to believe that they listening your "reports".
Do you believe that's is easy task to filtrer all the pile of feedback they receiving from their clients pool?
After you answear to your self this point, let go to the next one : How much of those feedback are considerated "garbage" to them? Why should i (SI company) should i listen to you instead of another client, in reality why should i even consider "feedbacks" when i have all my well paid testers.
Guess going any further then this is pretty time wasting.
Unfortunately the more you elaborate on the thread the more you make me think it's a complete waste of time discussing it with you.
The discussion ends here for me.
No there isnt any database here you can get and start testing. Except from a custom database you need to freeze morale, condition and attributes to any player so you will also need FMRTE to do this.
I have been playing FM since it was CM. I honestly think you should both stop now. There is nothing to be gained in pursuing this debate.
I agree. It would be good to have a constructive dialogue, to hear everyone's opinion but everyone can see where some people are going with their words.
Because they had more time on the ball instead of chasing it. I think this makes sense. If not I cant say anything more.
Floppyaams said: Manchester City is the exception, not the norm. Also, I would attribute their exception to their ability to retain possession so well. No other team in the world can dominate possession like them.
No it's not. Man City is combining Gegenpress + Control Possession in a level that they can do whatever they like. They can press in the whole game. I think this makes sense too.
Floppyaams said: Lastly, this is the most puzzling part for me because it's just a blatant lie, we did not have only 13-15 players in the season we won the league. We had a really strong bench during our UCL winning and EPL winning campaigns. We had a pretty good bench of Chamberlain, Keita, Lallana, Origi, Shaqiri, Lorvren, Milner, Gomez and some youth players. Most Liverpool fans still consider this to be the best bench we have had in recent times.
When I say he had 13-15 players all season I don't mean that there were that many players in the team but if you look at every game he played with the same eleven.
Look at a gentleman who wants to have a serious and constructive dialogue!
Congratulations Delicious! Bravo!