Hello guys and well done for your work! @Mark & @Snaipz
Why you don't use FMRTE? I think its more advanced scouting tool and also with much more flexibility on ratings etc. I was using Genie Scout too before some years but the developer of the app don’t update it anymore with new features, only fixing some bugs and make it work for each edition/patch.
Thank you again for your time and your effort you put. Keep going
Gianaa9 said: I tried both cause i had more lefty players in my team, surprisingly i had worse results, when i went back to the original one it returned to be amazing, don't know why Expand Did you change focus play and overlap instructions too or only positions of your players?
Stuaret said: @Delicious do you plan to test DLP + DM combination? Or any other defensive midfield combination? (DLP(Su) + VOL(Su), DLP(Su) + BWM(Su), VOL(Su) + VOL(Su)) Expand We need it because everyone stuck with WBs
letsgo9 said: @dzek alrdy make these kinda of comparisons, I think he can describe it better for ya Expand The truth is I haven't tried it in this year's version. Last year (though I believe the same is true this year) I came to the conclusion that for some reason the left side is somehow more efficient than the right. @alex
Dylan935 said: If any could put up the pi's I would appreciate it I'm on xbox Expand Brother, I have a solution for you! Because I've seen you on many tactics asking about PIs, download the demo version of the game on your pc/laptop and then download any tactic you want! That way you can see any PIs you want. 😎
LaXatiif said: @Caseyskc@Steelwood Guys, any tweaks when facing Top teams or away/hard games? Expand My advice is to reduce mentality to Balanced and remove Overlaps. Also in some situations and for a little time inside the game if you see that you are giving the ball away too cheaply remove Pass Into Space
ZaZ said: It is proof he is not using pirate. =) Expand And the loyalty to give money to buy FM rather than activate his Windows. So "Loyalty" attribute for you @Chris is 20!
Delicious said: It's too hard to judge something on few games, still imagine how people pretend to compare a tactic power on 38 games, still a mystery to me Expand Look, the most users don't use testing leagues and so they are trying to figure it out through normal seasons. But I think if someone want to have better insights of their tactic (through normal season) they have to pick a mid table team on the 5 big leagues.
Delicious said: But so far i can say at least FM24 is more "open" to new stuff then FM23 where you couldn't even dream to play narrows tactics on the same level of the others one. Expand FM23 is full of bugs and some are still in FM24. FM24 is definitely in better state but still needs improvements. Besides, you can see from the FM-Arena's table last year to this year the results. For me 57 score is average and this year we passed it and we can go even better. At least I hope so
Gzawx said: How can I add the screens to see them and not see a link? Expand Also change the language of the game to "English" so anyone can understand.
Stuaret said: There is also W(Su) instead of IF(Su). Still, a notable difference. Expand This might explains kind of the results but as we know RNG is a big factor here and especially this year and also with some changes on FM-Arena testing league.
Delicious said: I did literally changed just that, it's not like BPDs are full of PI anyway. I was curious because of this results here : https://fm-arena.com/thread/6717-brazilian-box-cb-libero/ Expand About Libero role this year, its a revamp role (kind of new) itself and it has some interesting movements (in possession). I'm curious to test it sometime in the future. Its kind of a "runner" in CB's position and it moves to DM position when the team has the ball.
Delicious said: Keep in mind that once again we don't really know how much "RNG" hit the runs. i do smell something like 5-7 points on 1200 games(maybe even more but i might be totaly wrong). It's literally luck, if you get normal or turbo runs or if you get the worst possible scenario as well. That's why to get better understanding you run more test possible. Expand RNG (as I said above) is a big and at the moment unknown factor of this year's edition so we can expect everything related to the distribution of points until FM-Arena staff test it again.
Here you can see more clearly about what i mean about "luck" there are teams that scored crazy amount; what happened if instead of 180+ and 190 it did 122 and 130 (example) you can run the average
keep in mind that each team play 100 games each and not 80 as arena and are 4 teams instead of 5 Expand To be honest "Shoot On Sight/Shoot More Often" are two instructions that I'm testing right now and I see some promising results but I'm still in the begining of these tests so I cant say anything reliable at the moment as I have many other aspect of ME I want to test.
Every tested tactic here has their set pieces routines delegated to Assistant Manager.
If you want Set Pieces routines please ask it here - https://fm-arena.com/board/13-set-piece-sharing-section/
Why you don't use FMRTE? I think its more advanced scouting tool and also with much more flexibility on ratings etc. I was using Genie Scout too before some years but the developer of the app don’t update it anymore with new features, only fixing some bugs and make it work for each edition/patch.
Thank you again for your time and your effort you put. Keep going
I want to check "Attacking Width". Standard to Wide.
I want to check "Attacking Width". Standard to Fairly Wide.
I want to check "Attacking Width". Standard to Fairly Narrow.
I want to check "Attacking Width". Standard to Narrow.
If you can, put it up for test on FM-Arena; mentioned the original creator and changes
Did you change focus play and overlap instructions too or only positions of your players?
We need it because everyone stuck with WBs
The truth is I haven't tried it in this year's version. Last year (though I believe the same is true this year) I came to the conclusion that for some reason the left side is somehow more efficient than the right. @alex
Here are my tests from last year:
Left - https://fm-arena.com/thread/6199-fm23-the-last-dance-v1-7-left-by-dzek/
Right - https://fm-arena.com/thread/6200-fm23-the-last-dance-v1-7-right-by-dzek/
I also saw other evidence in my own tests of this in addition to the results above.
But we can, if anyone wants to of course, try it again this year maybe something has changed.
Brother, I have a solution for you! Because I've seen you on many tactics asking about PIs, download the demo version of the game on your pc/laptop and then download any tactic you want! That way you can see any PIs you want. 😎
My advice is to reduce mentality to Balanced and remove Overlaps. Also in some situations and for a little time inside the game if you see that you are giving the ball away too cheaply remove Pass Into Space
A different variation of this tactic.
Changes:
Roles and Duties
- VOL(At) --> VOL(Su)
- AM(Su) --> AM(At)
An updated version of this tactic.
Changes:
Team Instructions
- Added: Shoot On Sight, Distribute Quickly
- Removed: Slow Pace Down
Roles and Duties
- VOL(Su) --> VOL(At)
- AM(At) --> AM(Su)
Tweaks PIs on all positions.
And the loyalty to give money to buy FM rather than activate his Windows.
So "Loyalty" attribute for you @Chris is 20!
Look, the most users don't use testing leagues and so they are trying to figure it out through normal seasons. But I think if someone want to have better insights of their tactic (through normal season) they have to pick a mid table team on the 5 big leagues.
Delicious said: But so far i can say at least FM24 is more "open" to new stuff then FM23 where you couldn't even dream to play narrows tactics on the same level of the others one.
FM23 is full of bugs and some are still in FM24. FM24 is definitely in better state but still needs improvements. Besides, you can see from the FM-Arena's table last year to this year the results. For me 57 score is average and this year we passed it and we can go even better. At least I hope so
Please read this - https://fm-arena.com/thread/2733-how-to-get-your-tactic-tested/
It's up to FM-Arena staff to test it or not anyway
Also change the language of the game to "English" so anyone can understand.
This might explains kind of the results but as we know RNG is a big factor here and especially this year and also with some changes on FM-Arena testing league.
Delicious said: I did literally changed just that, it's not like BPDs are full of PI anyway. I was curious because of this results here : https://fm-arena.com/thread/6717-brazilian-box-cb-libero/
About Libero role this year, its a revamp role (kind of new) itself and it has some interesting movements (in possession). I'm curious to test it sometime in the future. Its kind of a "runner" in CB's position and it moves to DM position when the team has the ball.
Delicious said: Keep in mind that once again we don't really know how much "RNG" hit the runs. i do smell something like 5-7 points on 1200 games(maybe even more but i might be totaly wrong). It's literally luck, if you get normal or turbo runs or if you get the worst possible scenario as well. That's why to get better understanding you run more test possible.
RNG (as I said above) is a big and at the moment unknown factor of this year's edition so we can expect everything related to the distribution of points until FM-Arena staff test it again.
Delicious said:
Here you can see more clearly about what i mean about "luck" there are teams that scored crazy amount; what happened if instead of 180+ and 190 it did 122 and 130 (example) you can run the average
keep in mind that each team play 100 games each and not 80 as arena and are 4 teams instead of 5
To be honest "Shoot On Sight/Shoot More Often" are two instructions that I'm testing right now and I see some promising results but I'm still in the begining of these tests so I cant say anything reliable at the moment as I have many other aspect of ME I want to test.