in the mean time i tried to create a version of your tactic that remained the same positions in possesion, but out off posession it is a 4-2-4 (moving one defender up on DM and one DM up to AM) and defensive line to high and also changing the mentality to positive instead of attacking, since i found it very hard to keep possesion when mentality was attacking, i think this has chained in FM26, tried changing team instructions to keep possession in all the traits that allow this, but possesion stat didnt increase until i changed mentality to positive Expand
The only stats that matter are goal difference by the end of matches, and points by the end of the league. Possession is just a mean to achieve that, but not the only one. If you want a tactic with high possession, you can simply change passing from direct to shorter, but it will be less effective.
Now ive tried this for 2 1/2 season with the danish club Odense Boldklub (newly promoted to superliga when i took over)
dominated first season and already thought this tactic was amazing!
next season i was qualified for champions league (through knock off matches to proceed to the league round of CL)
AND I WAS BAFFLED! look at my screenshot i absolutely dominated the league phase, and are in the semi final against barcelone already won the first match 2-1 at home.
This tactic is amazing...
my only wishes in the future is to tweak this against opponnents that i am much stronger than, because i often play 0-0 or win with a small margin against those team, because they often are defensive, but they still have alot of possesion because of the meta of this tactic (low blok)
Do you have any advise on how to tweak this to control game better, against weaker teams, i think about maybe more possesion wise or change formation to press higer against those?
thank you very much Expand
Gratz! You can try to change mentality to Very Attacking against weak teams, and see how it goes.
EmreBJK said: Will making too many transfers affect the results?I play for Dortmund and I'm struggling to win matches.I use this tactic.What should I do to improve team cohesion? Expand
Team cohesion increases naturally with time as players win matches together. It can also be affected by training, but in short, it is something that you need to be patient to build up. I am not sure how much it affects performance, so I cannot say if changing the team too much is a problem or not, but I would prefer to have better players than more cohesive players any time.
GabBau said: I almost always have two matches a week. Will I be able to fit six attacking training sessions in? I've scheduled speed training for all players (except goalkeepers). Should youth team training sessions be scheduled like this? Expand
Two matches per week are four busy days (match day, and following day for rest). That leaves 3 days a week that can do 2x attacking each.
Keep in mind there are very similar training schedules presented by the author of this thread, or even better for your needs. Some of them might be even easier to fit in the calendar.
GabBau said: Hi. So you just alternate these three workouts? 1-2-3-1-2-3? Thanks. Expand
Something like that. I am actually using 1-2-1-2-1-2 now, but results are barely the same. Keep in mind that assumes double intensity at high condition, and focus on quickness. Also, should remove recovery sessions. The idea is "1x endurance", then "6x attacking", with full rest after matches.
Note: Check their table if you want to customize your training for some specific goal.
Mark said: I think I am getting closer to the best balance with your tests so thank you so much. Here is the next iteration:
Handling, Shot Stopping, Physical x 2, Chance Conversion, Aerial Defence, Ground Defence and One on Ones
Once again reducing the Decisions component and increasing the Acc and Pace
If you could test this when you get a chance i would very much appreciate it
Thanks Expand
Try combining different routines to get what you want. For example, 79 (Endurance x1) gives a good boost in Pace and Acceleration, with very low Decisions gain, for very little CA. If you mix both equally, results might average to values you want.
I made some quick tests alternating three different routines (79, 150 and 159) with quickness focus and double intensity, and results were pretty good. First is Rebalance (Endurance x1), then Growth (Attacking x6), then Focus (Physical + Resistance + Quickness + Transition - Restrict), alternating them so they get equal time during the season. I think I will settle for that since it allows me to max speed of initially fast players, while getting a good CA for transfers and using those players.
P.S.: Made some extra tests with just Rebalance + Growth, and results were very similar, so I will keep just those two for simplicity.
Testing some asymmetry. BCB protects the back of CHM, which supports the movements of IF by the left. In the right side, OCB and IW support the infiltration of AM.
harvestgreen22 said: Some updates . This week is my very busy working day week, I'll sort out the previous Excel file and send it out, then I'll go to sleep. and didn't have time to reply the new thing.
Thank you for testing my routine, now I have a better idea of what I will be testing based on the table. My plan is to try 79 [Endurance] for pre-season (during something between three and six months), followed by either 138 [Physical][Quickness][Resistance][Tactical], 159 [Physical][Quickness][Resistance][Transition Restrict] or 150 [Attacking]x6 in the remaining season. The goal is to use 79 to rebalance attributes, followed by another routine to achieve a focused CA growth to reach top speed with high CA.
Snsnnsjsjs said: is this the best fm tactic rn?, also does this works for every team Expand
You can find a table in the top of the page. The best tactic is probably the one in the top. Keep in mind that, due to statistical noise, any tactic with 90+ points can be the best.
vmtvmtvmt said: Trying to maximize clean sheets and being defensive solid. (any suggestions appreciated)
Did the double with league and cup. Expand
IWs usually allow you to concede less than IFs, at the cost of less scored goals. GD is often the same, so it is fair to use one defensively, and another in offense.
Tackle harder all, flank players stay narrower, wingbacks shoot less, OCBs take more risks.
in the mean time i tried to create a version of your tactic that remained the same positions in possesion, but out off posession it is a 4-2-4 (moving one defender up on DM and one DM up to AM) and defensive line to high and also changing the mentality to positive instead of attacking, since i found it very hard to keep possesion when mentality was attacking, i think this has chained in FM26, tried changing team instructions to keep possession in all the traits that allow this, but possesion stat didnt increase until i changed mentality to positive
The only stats that matter are goal difference by the end of matches, and points by the end of the league. Possession is just a mean to achieve that, but not the only one. If you want a tactic with high possession, you can simply change passing from direct to shorter, but it will be less effective.
Now ive tried this for 2 1/2 season with the danish club Odense Boldklub (newly promoted to superliga when i took over)
dominated first season and already thought this tactic was amazing!
next season i was qualified for champions league (through knock off matches to proceed to the league round of CL)
AND I WAS BAFFLED! look at my screenshot i absolutely dominated the league phase, and are in the semi final against barcelone already won the first match 2-1 at home.
This tactic is amazing...
my only wishes in the future is to tweak this against opponnents that i am much stronger than, because i often play 0-0 or win with a small margin against those team, because they often are defensive, but they still have alot of possesion because of the meta of this tactic (low blok)
Do you have any advise on how to tweak this to control game better, against weaker teams, i think about maybe more possesion wise or change formation to press higer against those?
thank you very much
Gratz! You can try to change mentality to Very Attacking against weak teams, and see how it goes.
This, and it is not even close. I don't know what they put in their food, but they really score a lot.
Team cohesion increases naturally with time as players win matches together. It can also be affected by training, but in short, it is something that you need to be patient to build up. I am not sure how much it affects performance, so I cannot say if changing the team too much is a problem or not, but I would prefer to have better players than more cohesive players any time.
Just kidding. I'm just a little confused, and your message seemed the clearest to me.
Anyway, thanks.
The table has english translation. Anyway, you are welcome to use my version, I was just saying there are other options. =)
I've scheduled speed training for all players (except goalkeepers).
Should youth team training sessions be scheduled like this?
Two matches per week are four busy days (match day, and following day for rest). That leaves 3 days a week that can do 2x attacking each.
Keep in mind there are very similar training schedules presented by the author of this thread, or even better for your needs. Some of them might be even easier to fit in the calendar.
Something like that. I am actually using 1-2-1-2-1-2 now, but results are barely the same. Keep in mind that assumes double intensity at high condition, and focus on quickness. Also, should remove recovery sessions. The idea is "1x endurance", then "6x attacking", with full rest after matches.
Note: Check their table if you want to customize your training for some specific goal.
Handling, Shot Stopping, Physical x 2, Chance Conversion, Aerial Defence, Ground Defence and One on Ones
Once again reducing the Decisions component and increasing the Acc and Pace
If you could test this when you get a chance i would very much appreciate it
Thanks
Try combining different routines to get what you want. For example, 79 (Endurance x1) gives a good boost in Pace and Acceleration, with very low Decisions gain, for very little CA. If you mix both equally, results might average to values you want.
P.S.: Made some extra tests with just Rebalance + Growth, and results were very similar, so I will keep just those two for simplicity.
excel(part 1 , old)
https://mega.nz/file/4UUUDKgC#NuyR8RDaNap2_e44yi9SS2cjTkGgo2dpTL33obiUWQE
or
https://pixeldrain.com/u/pcRwnxi8
excel(part 2 , old)
https://mega.nz/file/QZNVgQzK#xOTiw1heWmVtIDRDDPiUZqzbBnqYAbVi14RYX0W3CoQ
or
https://pixeldrain.com/u/NzTu56KH
excel(part 3, old)
https://mega.nz/file/8JlW2LKb#NZyQ-gdnlcXu3Iun8-l5I-_c7wRmikgAvjOZjEsTvCg
or
https://pixeldrain.com/u/oa8Y2Z4U
excel(part 4, old)
https://mega.nz/file/dENF1KSK#gY0GO3Od_fALZ51UW_2dxLnAMnmlt0hkt01FVh9ZP50
or
https://pixeldrain.com/u/ihxzDL9p
excel(part 5, the newest )
https://mega.nz/file/dAMBTTAD#qJSvz7gwU0o-Yo3ecffCsMEBLiOesQe_7bwiCR_DGXw
or
https://pixeldrain.com/u/pcYTkHrZ
excel 5:
211 Handling, Shot Stopping, Attacking, Physical, Chance Conversion, Aerial Defence, Ground Defence and Distribution
212 2x Physical + 2x Match Practice + Attack + Defend + Set Pieces
243 [Quickness] + [Match Practice] + [Attacking] x2
Thank you for testing my routine, now I have a better idea of what I will be testing based on the table. My plan is to try 79 [Endurance] for pre-season (during something between three and six months), followed by either 138 [Physical][Quickness][Resistance][Tactical], 159 [Physical][Quickness][Resistance][Transition Restrict] or 150 [Attacking]x6 in the remaining season. The goal is to use 79 to rebalance attributes, followed by another routine to achieve a focused CA growth to reach top speed with high CA.
You can find a table in the top of the page. The best tactic is probably the one in the top. Keep in mind that, due to statistical noise, any tactic with 90+ points can be the best.
Did the double with league and cup.
IWs usually allow you to concede less than IFs, at the cost of less scored goals. GD is often the same, so it is fair to use one defensively, and another in offense.