pixar said: I'm using the old training system. But I have a question. Normally, defense training is done in the evenings according to your schedule, but if the next day is match day, the game analyzes the opponent. Do you manually fix this as a defense or leave it that way? Expand
I just leave match preview because I think it's bothersome to change, but you can change it if you want.
TomSteg94 said: Using Fire 0.2, won the PL and Europa League with Arsenal. No 1st team signings and plenty of injuries. Switched off 'get stuck in' PI as soon as a player gets a yellow. Great tactic. Expand
Nebuuuu said: So, as always, playing with Hertha BSC (Bundesliga) and first 11 league matches + cup are played. So far, so pretty good. Sure, the defensive feels a little bit loose but its also because of the kinda low defenders/players. 7 wins/2 draws/2 losses. My striker Kanga, 12 matches, 14 goals, best scorer in league so far. Here some screenshots from Blue 4.0, later changed to Fire 0.2.
Thanks ZaZ, wish you all a great weekend after tomorrows workday. Expand
Do you use the exact same training for your reserves and youngsters as your first team? I'm mostly curious if you have the same settings for the (Rest) training? Expand
Same training, same rest settings, and also remember to fix coach assignments. Even if you don't want to run youth teams, it is a good idea to pick the selection to youth team, so you can put the right players to have more match time.
Schneedler said: Thought I would post an update on the tactic through my Aberdeen save, been playing through and over the last 14 games (after the Rangers cup final) have dabbled with changing the mentality through the matches as well which doesn't impact the tactic offensively much at all but does seem to help a lot with limiting come backs from the other side, was seeing a few games when going up 2-3 early on the other side would make dramatic comebacks to level the game up, when changing mentality down to balanced/cautious and even defensive at times away from home the team still looked lethal going forward and a bit more solid at the back to counter the other side playing more positively, still conceded 12 in those 14 games and even took a 1-0 loss to Hibs where they had 1 shot all game (classic fm) but that's not a bad defensive record in my opinion in this game. very enjoyable tactic, predicted 3rd start of the season and miles clear at the top just now with 7 to play Expand
Koopa said: do you think fm23 'exposes' blue's defensive issues? i never used to have this many goals against me in fm22. also, the foul rate is definitely cranked up from fm22, to the point where i'd have anxiety in late game situations with so many bookings Expand
To be fair, Blue from FM22 was already sacrificing defense to score more goals, so I don't see it as much different from last year.
Thanks! Fire 0.2 is almost as good as Blue 4.0 from last patch. I'm still checking the new instructions to see if I find something new, then I will play a bit before checking the old instructions again.
Kaczy said: And how it looks when You give Your player for loan? When they play on loan increase looks same as they were playing in our main squad? For my experience in 2022 when i gave player for loan and they play in every single game (even 7+ avarage rating) they are not developing at all. Expand
I always feel like players develop better in my reserve or youth teams than being loaned out. It might be just because I pay closer attention when they are around, though.
Solaris said: that thing with emergency meeting by the end of the season is annoying as hell, I don't know maybe it's bugged or something Expand
I have yet to see that emergency meeting in live play, but if I remember well, there are some new meetings for the squad planner if you have too many players unavailable (for example, injured), or if you are losing too much and they think you need to improve squad.
Board is way more willing to fire managers in FM23. During my experiments, I was fired a couple of times with Manchester City even after scoring over 90 pts in the league. Apparently, I'm refusing to attend emergency meetings by the end of the season, which results in them kicking my ass. Maybe they could wait a few more days for the end of my one year vacation. =D
smigler said: Thanks for answer. Little annoying feature for sure lol Since my last post I finished Serie B with points record and in the first part of the season in Serie A still keep good results with Green From disappointing Benevento game I stared using Blue at home more often and it works too! I have one more question. I'm in WC year and my players back from holiday at 2 december and league start again in january. Should I arrange some friendlies and normal training whole month or something changes here? Great tactic again thanks mate! Expand
You have time to rest your players from fatigue, but staying out of action for too long will decrease match sharpness, which can increase injuries. I would book one friendly per week, or maybe two if you can play with completely different teams (it depends on the size or your team). I would also let the assistant manager control those friendlies, but it's your choice.
Efka said: thanks for your reply ZaZ. Actually, with ur tactic it's easier to turn back the score when my team lost in HT. I slam em in the team talk and just keep give the encouraging shout, then suddenly i match the score . When im ahead, I usually change the winger to defensive winger but mostly it didn't work with teams like city, liverpool, n for fck sake MUTD. But still ur tactic is wonderful, so thanks ZaZ Expand
Can't be helped. The tactic can only do so much, and the extra quality on players will always make some difference. Thanks for the compliment, though!
Efka said: Hi Zaz, really love ur tactic. It's really entertaining but sometimes it's hard to retain the advantage even when I change the mentality to cautious/defensive. Any suggestion on that? I currently use Fire 0.2 on my second season Palace, it's good so far. I beat Barcelona in their home in a crazy thriller match Expand
Sorry, I didn't do enough testing yet to know what's the best way to hold a score yet. I assume changing to cautious can help, but it's just my opinion based on last version. However, the nature of this tactic is to have high risk and high reward, and despite taking some goals, it will usually outscore the opponent and have one of the highest goal differences around. The fact that Crystal Palace won against Barcelona in their home says a lot about the ability to overperform.
alexej said: Well if anyone would find it it would be you Expand
Thanks for the kind words! People here help a lot too.
Kaczy said: Hi ZaZ i am playing FM since 1992 so 30 years (yes i am fck old ) You are making great job so i just want to say to keep up great work and yestarday i already started beta save with York City and i will give here info with results. Best wishes. Expand
I just leave match preview because I think it's bothersome to change, but you can change it if you want.
It's the start of my long save game with Rennes, beautiful start.
Thanks for testing, and gratz for the results!
I have a few different formations in a queue to test, but not tested yet.
Thank you for testing!
So far, so pretty good.
Sure, the defensive feels a little bit loose but its also because of the kinda low defenders/players.
7 wins/2 draws/2 losses.
My striker Kanga, 12 matches, 14 goals, best scorer in league so far.
Here some screenshots from Blue 4.0, later changed to Fire 0.2.
Thanks ZaZ, wish you all a great weekend after tomorrows workday.
Thank you for testing, and have a nice weekend!
Do you use the exact same training for your reserves and youngsters as your first team? I'm mostly curious if you have the same settings for the (Rest) training?
Same training, same rest settings, and also remember to fix coach assignments. Even if you don't want to run youth teams, it is a good idea to pick the selection to youth team, so you can put the right players to have more match time.
Yeah, they usually start only after release.
Yes, same training schedule.
Thank you for testing and showing so much data!
You really should upload your tactics to where they belong to
I'm still testing to see how a first version would look like. Real testing in FM-Arena will only start in almost two weeks, anyway.
To be fair, Blue from FM22 was already sacrificing defense to score more goals, so I don't see it as much different from last year.
You can download the tactic in the first page.
Thanks! Fire 0.2 is almost as good as Blue 4.0 from last patch. I'm still checking the new instructions to see if I find something new, then I will play a bit before checking the old instructions again.
For my experience in 2022 when i gave player for loan and they play in every single game (even 7+ avarage rating) they are not developing at all.
I always feel like players develop better in my reserve or youth teams than being loaned out. It might be just because I pay closer attention when they are around, though.
I have yet to see that emergency meeting in live play, but if I remember well, there are some new meetings for the squad planner if you have too many players unavailable (for example, injured), or if you are losing too much and they think you need to improve squad.
Since my last post I finished Serie B with points record
and in the first part of the season in Serie A still keep good results with Green
From disappointing Benevento game I stared using Blue at home more often and it works too!
I have one more question. I'm in WC year and my players back from holiday at 2 december and league start again in january. Should I arrange some friendlies and normal training whole month or something changes here? Great tactic again thanks mate!
You have time to rest your players from fatigue, but staying out of action for too long will decrease match sharpness, which can increase injuries. I would book one friendly per week, or maybe two if you can play with completely different teams (it depends on the size or your team). I would also let the assistant manager control those friendlies, but it's your choice.
Can't be helped. The tactic can only do so much, and the extra quality on players will always make some difference. Thanks for the compliment, though!
Sorry, I didn't do enough testing yet to know what's the best way to hold a score yet. I assume changing to cautious can help, but it's just my opinion based on last version. However, the nature of this tactic is to have high risk and high reward, and despite taking some goals, it will usually outscore the opponent and have one of the highest goal differences around. The fact that Crystal Palace won against Barcelona in their home says a lot about the ability to overperform.
Thanks for the kind words! People here help a lot too.
Kaczy said: Hi ZaZ i am playing FM since 1992 so 30 years (yes i am fck old
Best wishes.
Thank you! The more feedback, the better.