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I think the whole point is that set pieces are plug and play, and can most of the times be applied to any conventional tactics. There might be some very good tactics scoring low points because they use weak set pieces, while some tactics can overachieve because of some corner routine. Having tactics and set pieces being tested separated (adding standard set pieces to all tactics in the tactic table) would increase the accuracy of the tests, in my opinion.
However, some tactics might be created to "play for set pieces", but I don't remember any tactic like that ever succeeding in the table.
sangarios said: hey everyone, i hope u r having a good day. i have been using EvidenceBFM's training program with autoresting, lately i have discovered that there are some decline in my players pace-acceleration skill, and this attributes are critical for the success based on the tables. anyone have an idea that what can cause this and how can i fix it? imma share some of my player's ss. as you can see from the screenshots there are a 1 point decrease in my best attacking player's pace attribute, these are not the only, i have this issue more than 5 players of my team. Expand
It is normal to decrease sometimes to balance attributes. It might happen either because they peaked, or because they got injured, or lack of first team football, among other reasons. Anyway, I always put my players to train Quickness on their focus.
Lapidus said: Yup, it could be optimized but in FM24 the set piece won't be attached to tactics, it'll be like the training so it'll be possible to use the same set pieces when testing different tactics which was very hard to do in the previous FM versions. Expand
That will be cool, because it will allow two different tables in FM-Arena: one for tactics, and one for set pieces. Let's see how it looks when the game is released.
Xeno94 said: I dislike tactics that have CBs scoring as many goals as strikers. The feeling is that these set pieces skew and misrepresent the tactic testing. (Please correct me if I am assuming something wrong here, e.g if setpieces are not considered in the tactic testing)
Is there a possibility in FM24 that tactics are tested with default setpieces? Expand
I agree that isolating set pieces could improve the quality of tactics as a whole.
bwig said: Hey ZaZ, first of all, thanks again for your dedication to our beloved game! Now, is this still working with the newest patch? I somehow wont be able to get the zero "Loyalty Bonus and Agent Fee" through. They won´t accept. However they also don´t get pissed immediately about erasing all bonusses, so its a lil plus for me. But they keep wanting AF anf LB. Thanks in advance. Expand
It still works. You can make a dummy save and try with random players to see how it goes, then reload after you get the hang of it.
Laur said: Actually I tested with a few players that were either AM or ST, and sometimes AM+ST doesn't increase, sometimes it does. I don't get it anymore.
I tested by editing their position ability, from 1 to 20 and back. Expand
There are two possibilities: 1. They had another position, and then increasing to three playing positions will probably always increase CA. 2. Only attributes after certain threshold are considered for CA. When they are below certain value, they do not count at all.
It increases if you move from DM to CM, for example. It keeps the highest, somehow. In short, DM + CM gives CA of CM. AM + ST gives CA of ST, and I believe CM + AM gives CA of AM.
Thanks for testing, and I ask if you can confirm my statement since you are already there, please.
P.S.: In short, there are two directions. For example, AM > ST will increase CA, while ST > AM will not.
Lapidus said: For example, if you train a pure striker to play also AM and Winger then when he reaches his PA then his attributes will be lower than if he stayed a pure striker.
I don't say that training additional positions is a bad thing, I just wanted to point out that it isn't "for free" and there's a price for it. People should understand it. Expand
It's free for some specific cases, like training positions with the same attribute weights (like opposite side for wingers or wingbacks). I tested other combinations in the editor before, and I remember there was one combination that also did not increase CA, but I do not remember which it was. I believe it was AM + FC, resulting in the same CA as a pure striker. I have no evidence to prove it, but I think it keeps the highest weights of both positions for calculating CA.
toxicspazz said: hey Zaz! Been following you since the chinese AI analysis on FM22. You think we'll get something like this in FM23 as well? It was nice to know which stats actually matter the most for different positions and get the most out of roles and duties. Expand
It's hard to know, and the forum where they posted it is often blocked to people from outside China.
The last video of Max do not change much my schedule. If you look properly at the schedule he proposes, it is almost the same as mine, except with no training on match days and those two sessions before and after the match (for travel). Now, if you consider that match days (and travel) will overwrite training sessions in my schedule, the results will be very similar, especially when you consider resting days after matches. In other words, since the schedules will be very similar, the difference will be negligible.
They probably have some early thing for people that pay, or testers.
They always change the behavior of wingers during the patches, so I expect that to change later.
Thank you for the kind words! This time, I am just mixing around stuff to see what works, so lots of credits go to other creators.
I would try it with IWB-At.
However, some tactics might be created to "play for set pieces", but I don't remember any tactic like that ever succeeding in the table.
i have been using EvidenceBFM's training program with autoresting, lately i have discovered that there are some decline in my players pace-acceleration skill, and this attributes are critical for the success based on the tables.
anyone have an idea that what can cause this and how can i fix it? imma share some of my player's ss. as you can see from the screenshots there are a 1 point decrease in my best attacking player's pace attribute, these are not the only, i have this issue more than 5 players of my team.
It is normal to decrease sometimes to balance attributes. It might happen either because they peaked, or because they got injured, or lack of first team football, among other reasons. Anyway, I always put my players to train Quickness on their focus.
That will be cool, because it will allow two different tables in FM-Arena: one for tactics, and one for set pieces. Let's see how it looks when the game is released.
Is there a possibility in FM24 that tactics are tested with default setpieces?
I agree that isolating set pieces could improve the quality of tactics as a whole.
It still works. You can make a dummy save and try with random players to see how it goes, then reload after you get the hang of it.
I tested by editing their position ability, from 1 to 20 and back.
There are two possibilities:
1. They had another position, and then increasing to three playing positions will probably always increase CA.
2. Only attributes after certain threshold are considered for CA. When they are below certain value, they do not count at all.
DM + CM doesn't increase CA either
It increases if you move from DM to CM, for example. It keeps the highest, somehow. In short, DM + CM gives CA of CM. AM + ST gives CA of ST, and I believe CM + AM gives CA of AM.
Thanks for testing, and I ask if you can confirm my statement since you are already there, please.
P.S.: In short, there are two directions. For example, AM > ST will increase CA, while ST > AM will not.
I don't say that training additional positions is a bad thing, I just wanted to point out that it isn't "for free" and there's a price for it. People should understand it.
It's free for some specific cases, like training positions with the same attribute weights (like opposite side for wingers or wingbacks). I tested other combinations in the editor before, and I remember there was one combination that also did not increase CA, but I do not remember which it was. I believe it was AM + FC, resulting in the same CA as a pure striker. I have no evidence to prove it, but I think it keeps the highest weights of both positions for calculating CA.
You think we'll get something like this in FM23 as well? It was nice to know which stats actually matter the most for different positions and get the most out of roles and duties.
It's hard to know, and the forum where they posted it is often blocked to people from outside China.