KBB said: Hi everyone. First Post on here thanks to lurking looking at tactics a this thread in particular. Sorry for the newbie question I have about to ask.
Im using the 4 diamond 2 formation currently number 1 in the testing table for reference and playing the level 10 English database, currently my club is at level 10.
Without using any filters on Fmscout I have a player who is not a FB at all but a DM or AMC on the player profile, however FMscout rates him as my best FB at my club on the position % buy a clear distance. He is rated 49% FB and the next highest player only 32% fullback. Why is this? Should it be ignored and him used as a DM or should I put him in at fullback if thsts what the FMscout says?
Sorry for the question.
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You need to also look at the positional rating on GS out of 20. For instance if the player is 49% for the position but only 10/20 they will be much lower. What the info you have is indicating is that if you retrained the player to full back up towards the 20/20 rating they would be easily your best player in that position.
Unfortunately, I cannot compete with people brute testing (trying all possible variations), because they are just bound to find good things if they test too much. I lost count of the number of times I spent one week testing something novel, just to see it being tested before I could post it. In the end, the important thing is for people to have good tactics, and not exactly for the best tactic to be mine. I just wish I could have contributed more to the community this year, but my time has been pretty limited recently.
I guess I will try to wrap up the information I collected in my tests with what we got from the testing table and try to make a new version for the tactics. Expand
I love your work mate, it is definitely extremely valuable to the FM Arena community. Please keep it up. I know I am not alone in my appreciation for your work
kasaprus said: automatic translation, sorry for the mistakes Good afternoon I understand correctly, you need to look for players like this? 1. We look in the analytics for the best attributes in our league. Let's say for a midfielder in our league the passing and stamina averages are 10.3, the best stats are 12.7 (Squad - Analyst report - Comparison - Midfield - Show only midfield, right?). So, when searching for players in the positions of DM / MCRL / AMCRL, we round the numbers (11 and 13, respectively), in the game or GenieScout in the attribute filter, specify +1/2, then sort by position with the ykykyk balanced filter, and the players are at the top of the list by rating (if the position is 19/20 or 20/20) - are these players almost guaranteed to be the best in the league? 2. I want to understand what attributes should be viewed for the position. There were several different options in this thread, which one is better to use? If, like in attachment 1, for DM I look at 6 and above, then I compare these attributes by league, and in the filter I set the values by top in league + 1, then I sort in GS by position rating, right? Expand
Your best bet is just to use the ykykyky ratings and pick from there. Look for 18-20 in positional rating and find someone you can afford.
If you want to look at just a few attributes choose the highest ones from the ykykyky ratings file. It is not worth looking at the ones below 50.
Floppyaams said: Is there a downside to doing this? I thought it was always better to prioritize those key attributes over going for balanced players? Expand
Floppyaams said: Hi, I am using the ZAZ under 50 minus 25 filter for fm genie right now. How does ykykyk differ from ZAZ under 50? Expand
ZaZ takes up to 25 points off all the attributes that are rated under 50 points in the ykykyky calculations. This means that the ratings are skewed to only the most important ratings.
opq said: I tried double DM(de) at one of "cross" iterations, and think I was fooled by playing it with top team in weak league(Ferencvaros). It was like long ball to my defenders -> header to DM, who are pretty low positioned -> plenty of time to decide and space between them and opposition, cuz no1 pressed on them. And at EPL it wasn't that perfect, cuz DMs were on constant pressing from opposition: less time to decide leading to mistakes at passes. Expand
Let's see how it plays. It has been much more solid in defence for me
This tactic is based on 424 Alhamdulillah II 0.8 by opq, a tweak of the original Delicious tactic. I have used some of the hints from Zippo. So a big thanks to all of them. The intent was to improve the defence of the tactic.
I have included a much lower D line, removed pass into space, included work the ball into the box and removed get stuck in. I have also incorporated the Reliable set pieces.
Positionally I have changed the Volantes to DM DM Defend.
I tested the new tactic with Liverpool and St Albans (expecting relegation), after trialing it with Didcot Town in the 8th tier of the English Competition structure over a couple of seasons in a save (getting two promotions against the odds) - hence the name. It worked well in all testing, either playing the team or running holiday tests.
ZaZ said: For development, the best is to loan them to an inactive league. That apparently makes them count as used for all matches, which increases attribute growth. Expand
Im using the 4 diamond 2 formation currently number 1 in the testing table for reference and playing the level 10 English database, currently my club is at level 10.
Without using any filters on Fmscout I have a player who is not a FB at all but a DM or AMC on the player profile, however FMscout rates him as my best FB at my club on the position % buy a clear distance. He is rated 49% FB and the next highest player only 32% fullback. Why is this? Should it be ignored and him used as a DM or should I put him in at fullback if thsts what the FMscout says?
Sorry for the question.
Thank you for reading
You need to also look at the positional rating on GS out of 20. For instance if the player is 49% for the position but only 10/20 they will be much lower. What the info you have is indicating is that if you retrained the player to full back up towards the 20/20 rating they would be easily your best player in that position.
If you go into Settings, Position Ratings you can feed them in manually
Unfortunately, I cannot compete with people brute testing (trying all possible variations), because they are just bound to find good things if they test too much. I lost count of the number of times I spent one week testing something novel, just to see it being tested before I could post it. In the end, the important thing is for people to have good tactics, and not exactly for the best tactic to be mine. I just wish I could have contributed more to the community this year, but my time has been pretty limited recently.
I guess I will try to wrap up the information I collected in my tests with what we got from the testing table and try to make a new version for the tactics.
I love your work mate, it is definitely extremely valuable to the FM Arena community. Please keep it up. I know I am not alone in my appreciation for your work
Good afternoon I understand correctly, you need to look for players like this?
1. We look in the analytics for the best attributes in our league. Let's say for a midfielder in our league the passing and stamina averages are 10.3, the best stats are 12.7 (Squad - Analyst report - Comparison - Midfield - Show only midfield, right?). So, when searching for players in the positions of DM / MCRL / AMCRL, we round the numbers (11 and 13, respectively), in the game or GenieScout in the attribute filter, specify +1/2, then sort by position with the ykykyk balanced filter, and the players are at the top of the list by rating (if the position is 19/20 or 20/20) - are these players almost guaranteed to be the best in the league?
2. I want to understand what attributes should be viewed for the position. There were several different options in this thread, which one is better to use? If, like in attachment 1, for DM I look at 6 and above, then I compare these attributes by league, and in the filter I set the values by top in league + 1, then I sort in GS by position rating, right?
Your best bet is just to use the ykykyky ratings and pick from there. Look for 18-20 in positional rating and find someone you can afford.
If you want to look at just a few attributes choose the highest ones from the ykykyky ratings file. It is not worth looking at the ones below 50.
ykykyky ratings
Especially:
-ZAZ under 50 minus 25 filter
-Mark ykykyk
What are these, and where can I find them?
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It worked well in testing for me
ZaZ takes up to 25 points off all the attributes that are rated under 50 points in the ykykyky calculations. This means that the ratings are skewed to only the most important ratings.
And at EPL it wasn't that perfect, cuz DMs were on constant pressing from opposition: less time to decide leading to mistakes at passes.
Let's see how it plays. It has been much more solid in defence for me
Thanks Droid. Cant believe I would forget the most important thing after working through all the new requirements.
I have included a much lower D line, removed pass into space, included work the ball into the box and removed get stuck in. I have also incorporated the Reliable set pieces.
Positionally I have changed the Volantes to DM DM Defend.
I tested the new tactic with Liverpool and St Albans (expecting relegation), after trialing it with Didcot Town in the 8th tier of the English Competition structure over a couple of seasons in a save (getting two promotions against the odds) - hence the name. It worked well in all testing, either playing the team or running holiday tests.
Results are below:
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