Koopa said: ironically, i've had a lot of trouble with that tactic, are the CMs supposed to be world class attackers? cos i have an easier time scoring with blue Expand
That tactic is more solid, meaning better defense. Blue is better at attacking.
Koopa said: is the tactic suited for underdog teams? ive had some good results with it in my first year in the prem (managing Blackburn), but it feels like my players have regressed and i'm giving up a ton of goals to big teams Expand
It does work well for underdogs, but if you want a more solid tactic, try this one or Green 5.0.
Sane said: @ZaZ how important is it for the player to have the same traits as the role? Will it greatly affect the win in the match? Expand
That's very hard to measure. What I know is that opposite traits and instructions harm performance, but I can't say how much it improves if you use the correct traits. Personally, I don't bother about player traits at all.
Koopa said: I'd like to second a request for a guide to genie scout ratings. Is it the percentages that we look at? E.g. after loading the grf file, it says one of my players has a rating of 67% in the AMC role, is that the only number to look at? I assume that's the weighted rating cos I couldn't find any other numbers Expand
pixar said: Dude I review your career from time to time. Something caught my attention. I observe that he rarely takes advantage of rental transfers. I, on the other hand, add at least 5 players to my team on loan every year. I especially benefit from the young players of the team in a higher league and they make a significant contribution to me. The only problem is that you can only use 5 of them in the match squad. That's why there are a few loan players even in my rotation squad.
Did you really specifically avoid this situation?
This is the situation in my career right now. (First year, I'm in a level 12 league, now 3.) Expand
Nah, loans are good and you should use them! It's just that I like to own the players so the value of my team increases as they grow and win titles, but using loans will definitely make your life easier.
Sane said: @ZaZ how about making this post with the green tactic the same as the blue one?
I mean to make a full description of the tactics, different versions to hold and make your own player filter, because here it seems the players should perform slightly different functions.
Also, how much work can you do to improve this tactic to catch up with blue and score 65 on the test scoreboard?
I think the community would really appreciate it, because ZaZ - Green 5.0 (not SS) tactics are more suitable for real football and in many clubs players are more suitable for green than for blue, and in general for a long time in FM there were no equally excellent tactics with different arrangements and roles.
Respect for the work from the FM community) Expand
I will consider doing a more detailed description in the future.
roxadax said: Just out of curiosity, how would you guys try to defeat this tactic? I mean, if you are playing an online save and your friend is using this amazing tactic, how you guys would try to win the game? Expand
Vipergray said: I have a problem, right after my team scores, the opposing team scores. what could be the reason for this? What solution would you suggest Expand
That's very common because players can get nervous or complacent after scoring goals. To avoid that, you can use shouts, change to a defensive tactic like Solid Blue and pray (RNG is a bitch).
Well after a bit of working through things I have the results. I took about 200 with the best ratings and added a few from below that to pad out some of the Blue positions. Ended up with around 250 of the best players using the ykykyky balanced ratings file. After downloading all the ratings for all the positions I then manually added all the Playing Position ratings for all those players, but only if they were at least 15. I probably should have only used 18 and above but hey it is all done now. I have arranged it into the top 20 for each position. I also decided to add non ZaZ Blue positions for people not using ZaZ Blue tactic. Just remember these numbers may be different for each persons game. I have split the results into 2 sections, first for defenders and second for attackers.
Defenders
Attackers
I also selected the best from each position and put them into the ZaZ Blue structure. Here is what the best team would look like.
The team rating is 90.9 which is more than 4 points clear of the best side at the start my game save.
These rankings should work with any tactic even though they were originally designed for ZaZ Blue. Notice that in the main there aren't big margins at the top of the lists. If you were using ZaZ Blue you could easily drop a fair way down and have no noticeable impact on performance. Expand
Thanks for the lists, Mark! Always going beyond expectations. If you don't mind, I have added it to the initial post, under "Suggested Players".
P.S.: I just noticed how much of a "monster" the first topic became, with so much information about the game.
Season is finally over, but unfortunately we didn't manage to win the Premier League. I did everything I could and scored 93 points at the end, but Arsenal was just impossible this season. To be fair, it would be enough points to be champion in most seasons, but this one was just not supposed to happen.
On the bright side, we won UEFA Champions League in a thrilling match of 9 goals, which I decided to record and show below (it took 1h just to upload the 3gb video to Youtube). I started conceding with 20 seconds, then I scored twice before 8 minutes mark. After that, every time I scored, Bayern Munich seemed to get a boost in morale and equalize, which made this match tense from start to finish. We got the crown in the end, a well deserved reward after this run of eight seasons!
P.S.: Click "Watch on Youtube" for better quality. For some reason, it appears all blurry when I play it from here.
I hope this story was enjoyable enough to everyone. Let me know if any of my tips was useful and if there is anything you would want to add. Also, make sure to share your own experience if you decide to make a similar run!
Sandro said: It looks like you still have a chance of winning both trophies. Good luck with that. Expand
Way higher chances to lose both. I hope to at least reach finals on the UCL, even if I lose in the end. For premier league, only if a disaster happens to Arsenal, but since they lost so many points in the last matches, it might be possible.
Four matches left to end season, two from Premier League and two from Champions League. In the league, I managed to reduce difference from 8 to 2 points, but when I had the chance to take the lead, I lost to Manchester United. Now the difference is 3 points with two matches to go. In the champions League, I lost the first leg 4-2, but I believe I can turn things around at home.
Since those will be some stressful matches, I'll play when my mind is very clear so I don't get so annoyed if I lose.
I added the following recommendation to the first post.
"To keep players fresh during the season and avoid injuries, I also recommend setting automatic training intensity to rest all players below excellent condition, as in the picture below. "
yeongho said: Hi! I apologize for my English. I'm not very good at English. There's one thing I want to ask you. You told the players to rest.
I set a standard. remaining game days less than 8, more than 8
Am I doing it right?
p.s. Your tactics are great! you write so well thanks! Expand
Thanks!
I usually do like this: 1/4 heart = 3 days 1/2 heart = 2 days 3/4 heart = 1 day
If I have 7+ days to rest, 1 extra day to everyone, including 1 day to players at full heart.
The way you are doing is also fine and easier.
P.S.: I feel a bit stupid now, but I realized you can do that automatically on the training -> rest screen. You can set half heart to no pitch work and 75% heart to half intensity. That would be enough to avoid most injuries and recover players to next match. I will test it now, to see if it's enough or if it's better to have no pitch to 75% as well.
A couple more matches into the season and things went pretty well. I mean, I qualified to quarter finals of Champions League, won Carabao Cup and got kicked out from FA Cup by Chelsea. On the other hand, even though I got 28 of 30 points in the last 10 matches of the league, Arsenal is still 8 points ahead of me. I don't think I'll win the league this year simply because Arsenal doesn't lose.
About UCL, I got two victories against Porto to show below. First match was pretty even, but we won 2-0. Second match was home and we completely dominated the match, but in the end it was just 1-1.
That formation and roles work quite well, I tested it before.
That tactic is more solid, meaning better defense. Blue is better at attacking.
It does work well for underdogs, but if you want a more solid tactic, try this one or Green 5.0.
That's very hard to measure. What I know is that opposite traits and instructions harm performance, but I can't say how much it improves if you use the correct traits. Personally, I don't bother about player traits at all.
Thanks, but that kind of nickname should probably be changed so it doesn't cause confusion. @Zippo
https://www.fmscout.com/a-genie-scout-guide.html
Did you really specifically avoid this situation?
This is the situation in my career right now. (First year, I'm in a level 12 league, now 3.)
Nah, loans are good and you should use them! It's just that I like to own the players so the value of my team increases as they grow and win titles, but using loans will definitely make your life easier.
I mean to make a full description of the tactics, different versions to hold and make your own player filter, because here it seems the players should perform slightly different functions.
Also, how much work can you do to improve this tactic to catch up with blue and score 65 on the test scoreboard?
I think the community would really appreciate it, because ZaZ - Green 5.0 (not SS) tactics are more suitable for real football and in many clubs players are more suitable for green than for blue, and in general for a long time in FM there were no equally excellent tactics with different arrangements and roles.
Respect for the work from the FM community)
I will consider doing a more detailed description in the future.
In my experiments, Green 5.0 has good results against Blue 4.0. It wasn't tested here, but it's basically the same as this: https://fm-arena.com/tactic/2674-positive-tiki-taka-cms-attack/
He uses FM Genie Scout with custom ratings.
Vipergray said: I have a problem, right after my team scores, the opposing team scores. what could be the reason for this? What solution would you suggest
That's very common because players can get nervous or complacent after scoring goals. To avoid that, you can use shouts, change to a defensive tactic like Solid Blue and pray (RNG is a bitch).
Link to post
Pretty sure you linked the wrong stuff.
Well after a bit of working through things I have the results. I took about 200 with the best ratings and added a few from below that to pad out some of the Blue positions. Ended up with around 250 of the best players using the ykykyky balanced ratings file. After downloading all the ratings for all the positions I then manually added all the Playing Position ratings for all those players, but only if they were at least 15. I probably should have only used 18 and above but hey it is all done now. I have arranged it into the top 20 for each position. I also decided to add non ZaZ Blue positions for people not using ZaZ Blue tactic. Just remember these numbers may be different for each persons game. I have split the results into 2 sections, first for defenders and second for attackers.
Defenders
Attackers
I also selected the best from each position and put them into the ZaZ Blue structure. Here is what the best team would look like.
The team rating is 90.9 which is more than 4 points clear of the best side at the start my game save.
These rankings should work with any tactic even though they were originally designed for ZaZ Blue. Notice that in the main there aren't big margins at the top of the lists. If you were using ZaZ Blue you could easily drop a fair way down and have no noticeable impact on performance.
Thanks for the lists, Mark! Always going beyond expectations. If you don't mind, I have added it to the initial post, under "Suggested Players".
P.S.: I just noticed how much of a "monster" the first topic became, with so much information about the game.
On the bright side, we won UEFA Champions League in a thrilling match of 9 goals, which I decided to record and show below (it took 1h just to upload the 3gb video to Youtube). I started conceding with 20 seconds, then I scored twice before 8 minutes mark. After that, every time I scored, Bayern Munich seemed to get a boost in morale and equalize, which made this match tense from start to finish. We got the crown in the end, a well deserved reward after this run of eight seasons!
P.S.: Click "Watch on Youtube" for better quality. For some reason, it appears all blurry when I play it from here.
I hope this story was enjoyable enough to everyone. Let me know if any of my tips was useful and if there is anything you would want to add. Also, make sure to share your own experience if you decide to make a similar run!
Way higher chances to lose both. I hope to at least reach finals on the UCL, even if I lose in the end. For premier league, only if a disaster happens to Arsenal, but since they lost so many points in the last matches, it might be possible.
Since those will be some stressful matches, I'll play when my mind is very clear so I don't get so annoyed if I lose.
"To keep players fresh during the season and avoid injuries, I also recommend setting automatic training intensity to rest all players below excellent condition, as in the picture below.
I apologize for my English. I'm not very good at English.
There's one thing I want to ask you.
You told the players to rest.
I set a standard.
remaining game days
less than 8, more than 8
Am I doing it right?
p.s. Your tactics are great!
you write so well
thanks!
Thanks!
I usually do like this:
1/4 heart = 3 days
1/2 heart = 2 days
3/4 heart = 1 day
If I have 7+ days to rest, 1 extra day to everyone, including 1 day to players at full heart.
The way you are doing is also fine and easier.
P.S.: I feel a bit stupid now, but I realized you can do that automatically on the training -> rest screen. You can set half heart to no pitch work and 75% heart to half intensity. That would be enough to avoid most injuries and recover players to next match. I will test it now, to see if it's enough or if it's better to have no pitch to 75% as well.
Gratz!
About UCL, I got two victories against Porto to show below. First match was pretty even, but we won 2-0. Second match was home and we completely dominated the match, but in the end it was just 1-1.