kjordafen said: Of course not, just weird that so many using narrow and strikerless tactics when most of the top tactics uses strikers and wingers Expand
If I post videos of how I became champion of Premier League playing with Blue or any other top tactic, people will say "Great thing, even a monkey can do that in vacation mode". However, If I post a video showing how I won everything with a novel goalkeeperless tactic, then everyone will watch it. Youtube is about entertaining, not about showing the best tactics.
kjordafen said: Seen a lot of streamers and friends using narrow tactics lately and performing well. But this keep being a top tactic. Have you tested something of a strikerless and/or narrow tactic? Expand
It's not like the top tactics will start performing worse just because some people started playing narrow or strikerless. Anyway, new tactics are tested every day, you can just check the tactic testing log.
Nikko said: How is it going? Any results yet? Expand
Just added. It's probably not gonna be anything special, I would be happy if it reached close to 6.0. However, there's this tactic that already got tested and is probably better.
G1102 said: So i promoted to the PL back to back using ZaZ 4.0 . This is where things became difficult. I tried using the same tactic but the results were dreadful. First 13 matches i started to think i'm going to get relegated. But then i made the switch tot ZaZ 4.0 Solid and just started to spam NO Pressure and praise after goals and that did the trick. Results started to look good again. It seems that first season in the PL you can't go employ a positive mindset tactic. I regret not making the change sooner as i would have probably be in the running for european places. The loses and draw in the club form are against livepool both home and away and a draw against man utd at home. Last two wins against leichester and tottenham away. Expand
It might also just be that you had a bad spell of games, by random factors that you couldn't control. Sometimes it happens and it can last several games. Anyway, good that you manage to hold on Premier!
Koopa said: ironically, i've had a lot of trouble with that tactic, are the CMs supposed to be world class attackers? cos i have an easier time scoring with blue Expand
That tactic is more solid, meaning better defense. Blue is better at attacking.
Koopa said: is the tactic suited for underdog teams? ive had some good results with it in my first year in the prem (managing Blackburn), but it feels like my players have regressed and i'm giving up a ton of goals to big teams Expand
It does work well for underdogs, but if you want a more solid tactic, try this one or Green 5.0.
Sane said: @ZaZ how important is it for the player to have the same traits as the role? Will it greatly affect the win in the match? Expand
That's very hard to measure. What I know is that opposite traits and instructions harm performance, but I can't say how much it improves if you use the correct traits. Personally, I don't bother about player traits at all.
Koopa said: I'd like to second a request for a guide to genie scout ratings. Is it the percentages that we look at? E.g. after loading the grf file, it says one of my players has a rating of 67% in the AMC role, is that the only number to look at? I assume that's the weighted rating cos I couldn't find any other numbers Expand
pixar said: Dude I review your career from time to time. Something caught my attention. I observe that he rarely takes advantage of rental transfers. I, on the other hand, add at least 5 players to my team on loan every year. I especially benefit from the young players of the team in a higher league and they make a significant contribution to me. The only problem is that you can only use 5 of them in the match squad. That's why there are a few loan players even in my rotation squad.
Did you really specifically avoid this situation?
This is the situation in my career right now. (First year, I'm in a level 12 league, now 3.) Expand
Nah, loans are good and you should use them! It's just that I like to own the players so the value of my team increases as they grow and win titles, but using loans will definitely make your life easier.
Sane said: @ZaZ how about making this post with the green tactic the same as the blue one?
I mean to make a full description of the tactics, different versions to hold and make your own player filter, because here it seems the players should perform slightly different functions.
Also, how much work can you do to improve this tactic to catch up with blue and score 65 on the test scoreboard?
I think the community would really appreciate it, because ZaZ - Green 5.0 (not SS) tactics are more suitable for real football and in many clubs players are more suitable for green than for blue, and in general for a long time in FM there were no equally excellent tactics with different arrangements and roles.
Respect for the work from the FM community) Expand
I will consider doing a more detailed description in the future.
roxadax said: Just out of curiosity, how would you guys try to defeat this tactic? I mean, if you are playing an online save and your friend is using this amazing tactic, how you guys would try to win the game? Expand
Vipergray said: I have a problem, right after my team scores, the opposing team scores. what could be the reason for this? What solution would you suggest Expand
That's very common because players can get nervous or complacent after scoring goals. To avoid that, you can use shouts, change to a defensive tactic like Solid Blue and pray (RNG is a bitch).
If I post videos of how I became champion of Premier League playing with Blue or any other top tactic, people will say "Great thing, even a monkey can do that in vacation mode". However, If I post a video showing how I won everything with a novel goalkeeperless tactic, then everyone will watch it. Youtube is about entertaining, not about showing the best tactics.
It's not like the top tactics will start performing worse just because some people started playing narrow or strikerless. Anyway, new tactics are tested every day, you can just check the tactic testing log.
Yes, Libero worked better in all my experiments with 3 defenders.
P.S.: Yellow didn't go very well, so people should use this tactic instead:
https://fm-arena.com/tactic/2741-abc-3-4-2-1/
Just added. It's probably not gonna be anything special, I would be happy if it reached close to 6.0. However, there's this tactic that already got tested and is probably better.
Could you post screenshots of the tactic and result? Thanks in advance.
Sure. I still have to run it to get results. I didn't save them since I wasn't going to post the tactic.
This is where things became difficult.
I tried using the same tactic but the results were dreadful. First 13 matches i started to think i'm going to get relegated.
But then i made the switch tot ZaZ 4.0 Solid and just started to spam NO Pressure and praise after goals and that did the trick.
Results started to look good again.
It seems that first season in the PL you can't go employ a positive mindset tactic.
I regret not making the change sooner as i would have probably be in the running for european places.
The loses and draw in the club form are against livepool both home and away and a draw against man utd at home. Last two wins against leichester and tottenham away.
It might also just be that you had a bad spell of games, by random factors that you couldn't control. Sometimes it happens and it can last several games. Anyway, good that you manage to hold on Premier!
No. CM is better. If you are unsure, use the version from @Geek that was tested here and did very well.
I didn't say that, I just reassured that the tactic will probably do well.
That formation and roles work quite well, I tested it before.
That tactic is more solid, meaning better defense. Blue is better at attacking.
It does work well for underdogs, but if you want a more solid tactic, try this one or Green 5.0.
That's very hard to measure. What I know is that opposite traits and instructions harm performance, but I can't say how much it improves if you use the correct traits. Personally, I don't bother about player traits at all.
Thanks, but that kind of nickname should probably be changed so it doesn't cause confusion. @Zippo
https://www.fmscout.com/a-genie-scout-guide.html
Did you really specifically avoid this situation?
This is the situation in my career right now. (First year, I'm in a level 12 league, now 3.)
Nah, loans are good and you should use them! It's just that I like to own the players so the value of my team increases as they grow and win titles, but using loans will definitely make your life easier.
I mean to make a full description of the tactics, different versions to hold and make your own player filter, because here it seems the players should perform slightly different functions.
Also, how much work can you do to improve this tactic to catch up with blue and score 65 on the test scoreboard?
I think the community would really appreciate it, because ZaZ - Green 5.0 (not SS) tactics are more suitable for real football and in many clubs players are more suitable for green than for blue, and in general for a long time in FM there were no equally excellent tactics with different arrangements and roles.
Respect for the work from the FM community)
I will consider doing a more detailed description in the future.
In my experiments, Green 5.0 has good results against Blue 4.0. It wasn't tested here, but it's basically the same as this: https://fm-arena.com/tactic/2674-positive-tiki-taka-cms-attack/
He uses FM Genie Scout with custom ratings.
Vipergray said: I have a problem, right after my team scores, the opposing team scores. what could be the reason for this? What solution would you suggest
That's very common because players can get nervous or complacent after scoring goals. To avoid that, you can use shouts, change to a defensive tactic like Solid Blue and pray (RNG is a bitch).