babemocni1988 said: Its also bit of weird that only on this site people have bad results in testing and on other tests results are amazing.... Expand
Results are not bad here, it's just a harder league with a bigger variety of opponents, all using good tactics. It's only natural that tactics make less points here than in other tests.
End of season, champion and about to become professional. After a successful season, my boss offered to become professional next season, which I have obviously accepted. He also asked me to play possession football and play for set pieces, but I won't change my tactics for that.
The end of the season was harder than I thought, with two series of matches without victories that got me on the edge. I even lost by 4-0, which shows how anxious my players were. good thing we won in the end, with 4 points to spare (5 if we consider goal difference advantage).
Anyway, I also finished building my 22 man squad. My DM doesn't want to renew contract, but I got a boy from youth intake that is better than a gray player, so I decided to keep him to see if he develops to some acceptable standard. I always like to have at least one player from youth teams, but they need to have some minimum speed to get a spot in my squad.
By the start of next season, I'll see if I can renew 5 or 6 players from my team with better players, else this will be my squad for League Two (next division).
DoubleR said: Yeah totally agree, but I have seen it go to the top of the list of at least two different tactic test leagues now , same as your tactics 😜 so you guys are onto something Expand
His tactic might be better, I'm just saying tests can be improved.
I don't want to be mean, but his test has only one run of 40 games. For reference, he tests Blue DM and Blue 3.0 RPM, which is stated very clearly in the post that they are the very same tactic under different names, yet they are separated by 9 points of difference. Not saying Shaolin is not good, but I would recommend will to test a bit more.
Season almost over after 40 matches done. I was shamefully kicked out of FA Trophy by a team from my league (I expected to win that cup), then got three ties, which made me think I could also lose the league. Luckily I managed to keep morale high and we came back to victories, and now we have a 7 points lead over second place.
Below are the competitions, schedule, squad and player in best form, as usual, as well as dynamics and club vision. I also added the thrilling match against Notts County, possibly the hardest and most important victory of the season, and the youth intake, which seems to be promising (usually only crap since my level is too low).
I will try to get three more players to have a squad of two teams, or 22 players.
Mark said: This is why I save every couple of days at least in game time so I don't have to replay games. Some perceive it as cheating but I still would rather have the original of what I went through than be replaying games. I still follow with interest you story with this save and have confidence it will take you a long way.
Sometimes these things happens. I have had a few crashes in my time that mostly went the other way. I think the best way to deal with it is, that the stuff you lost was just you dreaming and then you went to the reality and that is what stays. Expand
I just turned on auto-save after matches, that should avoid the problem from happening again. (P.S.: Auto-save not recommended if you do holiday testing, it takes way longer when game saves after every match.)
Anyway, I think the concept of cheating is rather vague. There are literally hundreds of games where people reload when they don't get the desired results, so I don't think it's a big deal when people do it here. It will be like playing in easy mode, that's for sure, but some people enjoy other aspects of the game other than challenge. Using FM Scout or In Game Editor can also be considered cheating by some people, but I think it just changes the way the game is experienced, putting more focus on planning and the future instead of the current season. Whatever people like to play and have fun is fine by me.
I screwed up somewhere and when I openned my save this morning it was still in match 28 (closed the game without saving). That means I had to replay those lost matches and results have changed. I am not gonna lie, the season might become easier since I won those matches (previously a victory and a draw). There is nothing I can do about that other than apologize and go on with the run. I hope I win the league with a good margin so this doesn't make much of a difference in the end.
keadude said: Using the Blue DM with great results. Just wondering if anyone has any training schedules they could recommend? I'm using the Thedoubleintensitytraining schedules at the moment but just wondering if anyone has any they'd recommend?
Now at 30 matches of the second season. Notts County had an insane run (10W1L) and is now leading the championship, but I can overtake them if I win my delayed match. Since I don't want to take my chances, I hired three more players to the squad, including a second goalkeeper. I also renewed contracts with everyone that wanted, but two players refused because they don't think my team is big enough to their ambitions.
A few matches ago, my players started feeling fatigue, so I waited for a good break (9 days after FA Trophy match) and gave all my players one week of vacation. I also got some injuries, including my player that was performing the best (Josh Shaw, profile below).
There is still lots of championship to go (16 matches) and I hope Notts County start losing a couple of matches to give me some peace, else this championship will only be decided in the last matches. I hope I don't need play offs, since anything can happen in that kind of match.
Guidito said: Thanks - what do you think are the important attributes of the DWs? In pool, would you use Robertson and TTA in DW position or IWB? Thanks! Expand
See "Important Attributes" section in first post.
In short, if you have two players that you want to use together and they can play IWB and DW, I would use the one with highest dribbling as DW.
ta2199 said: Predicted last and leading now. Pretty impressive stuff ! Expand
Above average tactic plus fast players is usually enough to allow any team from lower divisions to challenge for the title. It gets trickier as you go up, specially around Sky Bet League and Premier League.
I've been using this on my Charlton save. I started using it towards the end of my first season in the Prem after back to back promotions from League One using something else and I'm now in season 2 of the Prem.
It's really starting to kick in now that I have players suited to the tactic and they are getting the green links, see the attached run of games!
I watched Tooka's video on the tactic and noticed the pass map issue with the DW's and IWB's standing on each others toes. I started having a play with the roles to try and get them separating out a bit. Putting them on Winger Attack has a hug impact on position, they fly up the pitch.
After a while messing around with it I thought 'Zaz has probably done all this already' so I gave up haha Expand
Thanks for testing! Yes, I tried W-At before and it was slightly worse. Not much, so you can keep it if you want. You can also try to make IWBs into WBs so they don't cut to the middle. As a side note, it's not so bad to have players nearby in that area, it also means your flanks are well covered.
Guidito said: Hey Zaz - how would you line up in this tactic with Pool and City? Expand
Just think of IWB as a normal wing back or full back and DW as normal wingers. Then, just put players in their best position.
Now, 20 matches in the season, Concord Rangers are finally in the lead. Unfortunatelly, we lost in our second match from FA Cup, which will be a blow to our financial goal. I expected to reach at least middle to later stages in order to reach one million euros of rewards and become professional, but it won't be possible this year anymore. In my defense, Plymouth are leading the League One, which is two divisions above mine.
Managing the squad is way easier this year with 15 players. I plan to renew contracts with all players by the middle of season and hire a couple of new faces. I want to end this season with 17 to 22 players.
Second season, now promoted to Vanarama National League. As expected, media doesn't have high expectations of my team, predicted last by a large margin. Facilities are still the same as last year (didn't even update the screenshot) and finances are in the same level, with nearly the same wage spending as last year (214k per year, sorry if you use salary per week or month). Squad was fully renewed with free players, except by one player that had longer contract last year (DL - Jordan Aina).
After ten matches, things are going pretty decently. I expect to be promoted as champion, but I am still two points off the leader. Note that my team is very young, with only one player as old as 21, and I even got all three young players of the month from my team. The player in best form is also shown down there.
Anyway, I had some problem with injuries, but things should improve after recoveries. I hope to become leader in the next ten matches and progress well in the cups, winning FA Trophy and progressing until later stages of FA Cup to get enough money to become professional.
drhay53 said: Anyway my point was simply to give you something to think about when you start looking at set pieces. Not criticizing the current tactic or anything, but I have found that I needed to get rid of low crossing when I actually wanted to have a chance to get on the end of a corner. Maybe it's placebo but I thought it was worth having someone who makes the better tactics test out.
G'day Expand
I didn't take it as a critic, I just think there isn't much evidence to support your claim. With low crosses, my teams are consistently scoring lots of goals from corners, around one every other match, so I don't see a reason to change. For example, in my Concord run, I got four goals from corners in two matches, one after another. I watched all those corners two or three times to see the behavior of players during those set pieces and they seemed perfectly fine, including the trajectory of the ball to the head of defender in near post.
I really think the height of the cross from corner depends on the taker and RNG, and not in anything you can set on tactics.
Results are not bad here, it's just a harder league with a bigger variety of opponents, all using good tactics. It's only natural that tactics make less points here than in other tests.
The end of the season was harder than I thought, with two series of matches without victories that got me on the edge. I even lost by 4-0, which shows how anxious my players were. good thing we won in the end, with 4 points to spare (5 if we consider goal difference advantage).
Anyway, I also finished building my 22 man squad. My DM doesn't want to renew contract, but I got a boy from youth intake that is better than a gray player, so I decided to keep him to see if he develops to some acceptable standard. I always like to have at least one player from youth teams, but they need to have some minimum speed to get a spot in my squad.
By the start of next season, I'll see if I can renew 5 or 6 players from my team with better players, else this will be my squad for League Two (next division).
That's it for season two!
His tactic might be better, I'm just saying tests can be improved.
I don't want to be mean, but his test has only one run of 40 games. For reference, he tests Blue DM and Blue 3.0 RPM, which is stated very clearly in the post that they are the very same tactic under different names, yet they are separated by 9 points of difference. Not saying Shaolin is not good, but I would recommend will to test a bit more.
Below are the competitions, schedule, squad and player in best form, as usual, as well as dynamics and club vision. I also added the thrilling match against Notts County, possibly the hardest and most important victory of the season, and the youth intake, which seems to be promising (usually only crap since my level is too low).
I will try to get three more players to have a squad of two teams, or 22 players.
Click "Tactic Source". You will see the download button very clearly.
Good job! My countryman is doing nicely there, 8.09 as average is incredibly good!
Sometimes these things happens. I have had a few crashes in my time that mostly went the other way. I think the best way to deal with it is, that the stuff you lost was just you dreaming and then you went to the reality and that is what stays.
I just turned on auto-save after matches, that should avoid the problem from happening again. (P.S.: Auto-save not recommended if you do holiday testing, it takes way longer when game saves after every match.)
Anyway, I think the concept of cheating is rather vague. There are literally hundreds of games where people reload when they don't get the desired results, so I don't think it's a big deal when people do it here. It will be like playing in easy mode, that's for sure, but some people enjoy other aspects of the game other than challenge. Using FM Scout or In Game Editor can also be considered cheating by some people, but I think it just changes the way the game is experienced, putting more focus on planning and the future instead of the current season. Whatever people like to play and have fun is fine by me.
Great job by the Zaz. Good tactic.
Check the section "Training" in my first post.
A few matches ago, my players started feeling fatigue, so I waited for a good break (9 days after FA Trophy match) and gave all my players one week of vacation. I also got some injuries, including my player that was performing the best (Josh Shaw, profile below).
There is still lots of championship to go (16 matches) and I hope Notts County start losing a couple of matches to give me some peace, else this championship will only be decided in the last matches. I hope I don't need play offs, since anything can happen in that kind of match.
In pool, would you use Robertson and TTA in DW position or IWB? Thanks!
See "Important Attributes" section in first post.
In short, if you have two players that you want to use together and they can play IWB and DW, I would use the one with highest dribbling as DW.
Above average tactic plus fast players is usually enough to allow any team from lower divisions to challenge for the title. It gets trickier as you go up, specially around Sky Bet League and Premier League.
I've been using this on my Charlton save. I started using it towards the end of my first season in the Prem after back to back promotions from League One using something else and I'm now in season 2 of the Prem.
It's really starting to kick in now that I have players suited to the tactic and they are getting the green links, see the attached run of games!
I watched Tooka's video on the tactic and noticed the pass map issue with the DW's and IWB's standing on each others toes. I started having a play with the roles to try and get them separating out a bit. Putting them on Winger Attack has a hug impact on position, they fly up the pitch.
After a while messing around with it I thought 'Zaz has probably done all this already' so I gave up haha
Thanks for testing! Yes, I tried W-At before and it was slightly worse. Not much, so you can keep it if you want. You can also try to make IWBs into WBs so they don't cut to the middle. As a side note, it's not so bad to have players nearby in that area, it also means your flanks are well covered.
Guidito said: Hey Zaz - how would you line up in this tactic with Pool and City?
Just think of IWB as a normal wing back or full back and DW as normal wingers. Then, just put players in their best position.
Managing the squad is way easier this year with 15 players. I plan to renew contracts with all players by the middle of season and hire a couple of new faces. I want to end this season with 17 to 22 players.
You're welcome!
I tested every role. The team keeps winning but my player keeps with the lowest grade (RPM, DLP or DM support).
Whatever DM player keeps with the lowest grade independent of the role.
(sorry for bad english)
Ignore the low grades. What matters is win rate, which translates to titles.
After ten matches, things are going pretty decently. I expect to be promoted as champion, but I am still two points off the leader. Note that my team is very young, with only one player as old as 21, and I even got all three young players of the month from my team. The player in best form is also shown down there.
Anyway, I had some problem with injuries, but things should improve after recoveries. I hope to become leader in the next ten matches and progress well in the cups, winning FA Trophy and progressing until later stages of FA Cup to get enough money to become professional.
Do you have left footed players as LB and right footed on RB? Or do you invert them, like the role is intended?
It doesn't matter, they perform equally well with either foot. They don't cross or shoot enough for the foot to make much of a difference.
Tookajobs said:
Thanks for testing! Keep doing a good job for the community!
G'day
I didn't take it as a critic, I just think there isn't much evidence to support your claim. With low crosses, my teams are consistently scoring lots of goals from corners, around one every other match, so I don't see a reason to change. For example, in my Concord run, I got four goals from corners in two matches, one after another. I watched all those corners two or three times to see the behavior of players during those set pieces and they seemed perfectly fine, including the trajectory of the ball to the head of defender in near post.
I really think the height of the cross from corner depends on the taker and RNG, and not in anything you can set on tactics.