Gpassosbh said: Hello @ZaZ , I'll use ZaZ Blue 3.0 as my primary tactic. Which other 2 tactic you recomend to fill all the 3 tactic space? Maybe one more defensive, and another more attacking. Can you tell me? Expand
When you want to maximize your chance to win: Blue 3.0 When you want to sacrifice offense to concede less: Blue 3.0 with cautious mentality When you want to sacrifice defense to score more: Blue 3.0 with very attacking mentality
For those three, you just need to train Blue 3.0, any tactic with cautious mentality and any tactic with very attacking mentality. I'd recommend Light Blue 3.0, which can also be used when you have a good lead and want to rest a bit and get less yellow cards, and Dark Blue 3.0.
If you want different tactics, then I would recommend Copper and Void, but I believe cautious Blue is as good as Copper in defense and very attacking Blue is as good in offense as Void. However, this was not tested here yet, it's just my feeling based on personal tests.
I've had great success playing this tactic (ZaZ - Blue 3.0), but with one striker. It might not be as effective as the original, but it will definitely still overachieve. Sometimes it's annoying having a top striker in your team, but he can't play the AMC position, or will take a long time to train it.
Only change one of the AMC's into central striker position, and the CM to the other side of the remaining AMC like in the photo. Important to do so. Advanced forward is the best role. It can be the other way around, I change it depending on the foot of my players. A right-footed AMC is better on the right, and left-footed AMC on the left. The ideal in my photo would be right-footed AMC and left-footed LCM.
I use wingers on support, but with press more in the individual instructions. I've done it on all positions. Also you should slightly change the set-pieces to fit the new formation.
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I believe there is a similar tactic called Comet, but you can always post that tweak to get it tested and see how it performs. I've been testing some things lately but didn't have much success in finding any improvement.
Elpitcho said: Hi guys ! I am playing with Leeds, finished 3rd first season and about to finish 2nd this time. I know these are good results but I was wondering why my players are always struggling at the end of the season... I was 1st the from GW5 to 30 and now I am struggling a lot even against weak teams.
I pay a lot of attention to their fatigue, injuries. The atmosphere is good, the team spirit as well... I mean everything looks fine but don't know why I am struggling... Expand
By the end of a season, the two main factors for a team to perform badly are fatigue (which is different from condition, you can see it at medical centre) and psychology. Players from small teams usually get nervous when they are overachieving, so you need to relieve their pressure before the matches. On the other hand, teams usually get complacent against weaker opponents, so you need to challenge them when they get complacent. In other words, you need to check the players body language and understand if they are cracking under pressure or getting complacent, then give the right pep talk to get them back in shape.
first your tactic is unbelievabel and i have wonderful results. Just a question i am the new manager of Lyon and i have the opportunity to bring back Benzema to the club but he wants to play as a deep lying striker.
Do you think it will be a big chance to use him as his best role ?
Thanks in advance for your answer Expand
If you want to use real strikers, there is a tactic called Fanatic, from @Maverick, which has the best results. However, there is no top tactic using the role deep lying foward.
If I were in your place and a player only wanted to sign if I promise to play him in his best role, I would just lie and play him in another position. Maybe he would be angry in the first few months, but after a while he drops his concern, specially if he is happy with other things like victories, playing time or club atmosphere.
Mishkat said: Hi just wanted to know who should take corners? If its mentioned above then extremely sorry about that. Expand
Just leave it empty so it goes to best taker.
Maxeneize said: After several season I arrived to Aalborg. They did not have quality strikers so I decided to go back to using zaz. Their media prediction was 4th and we dominated the league. We also had a good run in the EL, where we were unlucky against OM, as in both games we had a player sent off very early. My best player has a ca of 140, but most of them are around 120, so we did cause some mayor upsets with this tactic Expand
Nice job! Remember to evaluate your squad by the end of each season and keep an eye on those players that get sent off too often. That might mean they have high Dirtness hidden attribute, which could make them unreliable.
just me said: thanks mate. i am also doing rotation, so i have 2 best 11. btw would it be fair to say that the DR and DL are important players for this tactic? last year my DR made 17 assists in the league. Expand
Not only important in attack, but they are also the last line of defense in attacking set pieces, so having fast wingbacks is really important to prevent counter-attacks.
bula1899 said: Im not sure that zaz blue is the best tactic in FM21, but im sure that in my journey with FM 21 im going to always use this tactic, what a results! in my career i trained Bursaspor, in the mid 3th season(2th team in Turkey in this moment) i stopped use tactic from Knap and change tactic to zaz blue. 4th season i won CL (problem was that my 2th teams has a lot of injuriersand lost 2 goals in final, but not was a huge problem. better example was semifinal with Real, 4:0 and 3:0 for me)
but the best example are my results with OM, always win, without concede goals, easy 4:0 with PSG(22-2-1 After loss with me).
Thanks, really recommended read this comments in this thread like the most important attributes, strategy for change mentality etc. Expand
Cazador said: @ZaZ : Do IWBs need to have different side strong foot than the side they are playing on? Eg: Right IWB needs to be stronger on the Left foot? Expand
It's not important. Your assistant manager will give them less stars if they have same foot as side, but his opinion doesn't have any effect and you can safely ignore it.
Strong foot is needed to either cross (same side) or shoot (inverted), but IWB doesn't do any of those. In the end, it just makes it easier to pass the ball to flanks or center, but since the tactic is balanced to either direction, it doesn't make much difference at all.
Don't trust in your scouts for potential. As a basic rule, good players at young age usually have more potential than bad players at young age. If you find a kid with 15-16 years old and 13+ pace and agility, sign him.
Keshk said: I just need to know what is the Most important attributes for deep lying playmaker .. they always being in a bad form .. not that affect like others. Thanks in advance Expand
They usually perform badly in any tactic using this formation. For attributes, I usually look for PAce, Acceleration, Agility and Jumping Reach.
Egraam said: You can also arrange friendlies against very weak teams and play them in those in the desired position. This is probably the best method if you want to do it as fast as possible and can't really afford to play them in league matches when they are unfamiliar with the position. Expand
You can also arrange friendlies with the reserve team and make them available, or even take command to make sure they are played in the right position. I usually do that when my second team players need match fitness.
ta2199 said: @ZaZ Whats your method to retrain players to new position ? I usually let player has individual training + Double Training Intensity + Add them to mentoring group. Is this the fastest way ? Expand
Just like @Rince said, training focus and playing time in the position. I usually bring them as subs when the match is already won, at least until they become accomplished. There isn't much difference between accomplished and natural players, so after that point you can just use the best player.
pixar said: Really great tactic. I'm playing with a 90 percent win rate. The producer has thought of everything. congratulations. I read all the posts in this post, and I check it every few days. I formed an emotional bond with the tactic. I have only one wish from the producer. publish player traits recommendations for all positions. thanks for your efforts. Expand
Thank you so much! Unfortunatelly, there isn't much to say about player traits. Just add traits that reinforce the roles (based on player instructions). For example, Move Into Channels to Shadow Strikers.
When you want to maximize your chance to win: Blue 3.0
When you want to sacrifice offense to concede less: Blue 3.0 with cautious mentality
When you want to sacrifice defense to score more: Blue 3.0 with very attacking mentality
For those three, you just need to train Blue 3.0, any tactic with cautious mentality and any tactic with very attacking mentality. I'd recommend Light Blue 3.0, which can also be used when you have a good lead and want to rest a bit and get less yellow cards, and Dark Blue 3.0.
If you want different tactics, then I would recommend Copper and Void, but I believe cautious Blue is as good as Copper in defense and very attacking Blue is as good in offense as Void. However, this was not tested here yet, it's just my feeling based on personal tests.
TurtleKing said: Hi
I've had great success playing this tactic (ZaZ - Blue 3.0), but with one striker. It might not be as effective as the original, but it will definitely still overachieve. Sometimes it's annoying having a top striker in your team, but he can't play the AMC position, or will take a long time to train it.
Only change one of the AMC's into central striker position, and the CM to the other side of the remaining AMC like in the photo. Important to do so. Advanced forward is the best role. It can be the other way around, I change it depending on the foot of my players. A right-footed AMC is better on the right, and left-footed AMC on the left. The ideal in my photo would be right-footed AMC and left-footed LCM.
I use wingers on support, but with press more in the individual instructions. I've done it on all positions. Also you should slightly change the set-pieces to fit the new formation.
I believe there is a similar tactic called Comet, but you can always post that tweak to get it tested and see how it performs. I've been testing some things lately but didn't have much success in finding any improvement.
I pay a lot of attention to their fatigue, injuries. The atmosphere is good, the team spirit as well... I mean everything looks fine but don't know why I am struggling...
By the end of a season, the two main factors for a team to perform badly are fatigue (which is different from condition, you can see it at medical centre) and psychology. Players from small teams usually get nervous when they are overachieving, so you need to relieve their pressure before the matches. On the other hand, teams usually get complacent against weaker opponents, so you need to challenge them when they get complacent. In other words, you need to check the players body language and understand if they are cracking under pressure or getting complacent, then give the right pep talk to get them back in shape.
first your tactic is unbelievabel and i have wonderful results. Just a question i am the new manager of Lyon and i have the opportunity to bring back Benzema to the club but he wants to play as a deep lying striker.
Do you think it will be a big chance to use him as his best role ?
Thanks in advance for your answer
If you want to use real strikers, there is a tactic called Fanatic, from @Maverick, which has the best results. However, there is no top tactic using the role deep lying foward.
If I were in your place and a player only wanted to sign if I promise to play him in his best role, I would just lie and play him in another position. Maybe he would be angry in the first few months, but after a while he drops his concern, specially if he is happy with other things like victories, playing time or club atmosphere.
Just leave it empty so it goes to best taker.
Maxeneize said: After several season I arrived to Aalborg. They did not have quality strikers so I decided to go back to using zaz. Their media prediction was 4th and we dominated the league. We also had a good run in the EL, where we were unlucky against OM, as in both games we had a player sent off very early. My best player has a ca of 140, but most of them are around 120, so we did cause some mayor upsets with this tactic
Nice job! Remember to evaluate your squad by the end of each season and keep an eye on those players that get sent off too often. That might mean they have high Dirtness hidden attribute, which could make them unreliable.
Not much, but they tested here before and got the result that same foot as side is better than inverted foot, for both defenders and strikers.
Not only important in attack, but they are also the last line of defense in attacking set pieces, so having fast wingbacks is really important to prevent counter-attacks.
That's some good management there to not let players go complacent or anxious. Good job!
in my career i trained Bursaspor, in the mid 3th season(2th team in Turkey in this moment) i stopped use tactic from Knap and change tactic to zaz blue.
4th season i won CL
(problem was that my 2th teams has a lot of injuriersand lost 2 goals in final, but not was a huge problem. better example was semifinal with Real, 4:0 and 3:0 for me)
but the best example are my results with OM, always win, without concede goals, easy 4:0 with PSG(22-2-1 After loss with me).
Thanks, really recommended read this comments in this thread like the most important attributes, strategy for change mentality etc.
Those are some nice results, good job there!
You need to create a topic for that in the forum, in the tactics sharing section.
It's not important. Your assistant manager will give them less stars if they have same foot as side, but his opinion doesn't have any effect and you can safely ignore it.
Strong foot is needed to either cross (same side) or shoot (inverted), but IWB doesn't do any of those. In the end, it just makes it easier to pass the ball to flanks or center, but since the tactic is balanced to either direction, it doesn't make much difference at all.
They usually perform badly in any tactic using this formation. For attributes, I usually look for PAce, Acceleration, Agility and Jumping Reach.
You can also arrange friendlies with the reserve team and make them available, or even take command to make sure they are played in the right position. I usually do that when my second team players need match fitness.
Is this the fastest way ?
Just like @Rince said, training focus and playing time in the position. I usually bring them as subs when the match is already won, at least until they become accomplished. There isn't much difference between accomplished and natural players, so after that point you can just use the best player.
I read all the posts in this post, and I check it every few days. I formed an emotional bond with the tactic.
I have only one wish from the producer. publish player traits recommendations for all positions.
thanks for your efforts.
Thank you so much! Unfortunatelly, there isn't much to say about player traits. Just add traits that reinforce the roles (based on player instructions). For example, Move Into Channels to Shadow Strikers.
I suppose he means what kind of player for these positions.
Well, this is it for FM21. Maybe it will change on FM22, but there won't be any more match engine patches for this version.
Same as side.
First page (of Blue 3.0).