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CBP87 said: Mbappe and Haaland amongst others at West Ham after 2nd season?

After West Ham was bought by rich oil dudes from Middle East, like Chelsea or City.
Jellis said: For the shadowstriker position, what's best? Players with a good 'fast striker' rating or with a good 'AMC' rating? Thank you for this amazing tactic. :) Promoted 3 seasons in a row with no transfer budget.

Fast striker.

turkishplayer said: Set pieces?

In the first post.
mr0gabn said: I will. Nice tactic.
One thing i am struggling is that some of my players getting unhappy with high volume of quickness training or they think they should do more tactical/technical training.
Should i listen them by adjusting your advised training schedules?


Just ignore them. They are unhappy with training, but if you check the dynamics, they are very happy because of other factors. It's not worth it to screw up their training and attribute gain just because they are lazy. I usually allow my players to complain the entire season, even if they want more play time or new contracts. If I talk to them and they say it's fine, then I let them whine. If they have the guts to confront me and ask for what they want, then I check how important they are to the squad and give in if they are worth it, or get rid of them if they are not.
mr0gabn said: First year with Fulham. i mean wt actual F

Just make sure to check your medical centre so your players don't get fatigued. With good rotation and managing their complacency/pressure, you can be champion in the first season.
Post the best purchases you got in the first season of any league, to help those starting new games. For standardization, post it with the following fields:

Player: His name.
Position: Playing position, or where you retrained him to play.
League: Country and division.
Cost: How much you paid for the player (remember to tell the currency).
Attributes: FM Inside link (https://fminside.net/players) or screenshot.

I'll add an example here. The player below might not be any good for upper division, but he was a beast in my teams in the lowest divisions of both Sweden and England, both predicted last place but crowned champions.

Player: De'marlio Brown-Sterling
Position: ST retrained to SS.
League: England, Vanarama North.
Cost: Free
Attributes: https://fminside.net/players/29217209-demarlio-brown-sterling
We should have a topic for bargain players for first season. Should state the league, price and a screenshot of attributes, so people get tips when starting new games.
roro51 said: @ZaZ do you use filters to recruit your players?

No, I just make sure they are fast. Good pace and acceleration is half way to my team.
Ralle said: Super tactics, won WC with France. both titles with Red Bull Salzburg and is now playing for the Italian national team.

Gratz!
I would rather just remove the best and worst result for each team and compute data using the four middle results, to discard outliers. Other than that, the method seems fine in isolating the tactic effect on the result.

About adding teams, the more teams you add, the more meaningless the tests become, since you will have the tactic facing itself more often, which doesn't add much to the table.
Machismo said: Concord Rangers were a happy squad in Vanarama south pleased with me & using Zaz blue lying 2nd and looking good.  Switched over to Zaz Red & went on vacation Jan-Mar.  Returned to find the team in a shambles.  Now been back in charge for 6 games using RED.  Losses interspersed with the odd draw.  Visually they look nothing like the old smooth looking Zaz blue team.  I hate them all.  and the assist Man. 
Wish there was a punch-him-in-the-face button.  my moral is now sinking with them & I just abuse them in the change room and swear at them in the shouts.
We're lying fifth thanks to zaz blue's early points.  And should creep into the play-offs.

Concord Rangers were tipped to finish halfway.  But truly Red's killing me.  But I'll persevere with Red.  What to do to win promotion come the play-offs?  It's now April 12th.


It's very risky to leave stuff to the assistant manager when your squad is small. He is just stupid, using exhausted players, getting everyone injuried and more often than not using players out of position. I suppose you have to first save your team morale. Go to training center and compliment all players that trained well this week (like over 8.0), then warn everyone that trained bad (under 6.2). Then, check the form for the last 5 matches and do the same, complimenting the form of anyone over 7.0 and warning anyone under 6.2. Finally, do the same for the last match, complimenting everyone over 8.0 and warning everyone under 6.2. That will make things slightly better, but you might also need a team talk, which will depend a lot on how your team is doing in the past 5 matches.

Next step is to check medical center for players with high fatigue. Anyone with high fatigue will perform worse, even if they are 100% condition. Either give them vacation or rest them from matches and training, if possible.

Other than that, when your team is overachieving, it's a good idea to give initial pep talks to say there is no pressure, followed by individual talk that you have faith on them. When weak teams overachieve, they very often get pressured and play worse, so you need to ease them up.
Maxeneize said: It works even in one of the most amateur leagues. The only 3 games I didn't win in the local competitions were the typical games in which you shoot 20 times and the oppositions only shoots 1 but scores. Also won the cup and the super cup. In the Conference league qualyfication we beat Linfield and Qarabag, which was unexpected.

Yeah, there is nothing you can do when your team just refuses to hit the goal. It's actually a hidden mechanic to make sure people don't always win. When you are winning too much, players get complacent and some strikers can get into long goal droughs, even if they are Messi and CR7. It just can't be helped. Some hidden stats contribute to that, like Consistency and Important Matches.
Han106 said: If you aren't trying to optimize for injuries in training, would you replace the Recovery Sessions with all Ball Distribution?

I would rather add more quickness sessions and hope for the best. =)
Maxeneize said: A little late to the party but I just got fm21. I haven't played since fm18 and decided to give this game and its best rated tactic a go. I will do the alphabet challenge in which I manage across the european leagues in alphabetical order.

I started with Laci in the Albanian league. Media prediction 6th. This tactic is giving great results. What I've noticed is that whenever I lose or draw, the opposition scores after the 80th minute while playing with instant result. Is there anything I can do to avoid that, like a match plan or something?

Edit: An amazing 25 match undefeated run allowed us to achieve the double, amazing performance of this tactic. Off to Andorra we go


It's normal for this kind of tactic to concede by the end of the match. The reasons are the high intensity, which makes your players tired by the end, as well as complacency, since you are usually winning by the 80th minute mark and the team just relaxes. You need to counter that with pep talk, shouts and substitutions, as well as rotation to avoid fatigue (not to be confused with condition, you can see fatigue in the medical centre).
Skinner456 said: Has anyone figured out any overpowered attacking throw in routines in this latest patch? I have a few routines but none work as well as they have in past FM games.

Some say the Throw-Ins from Phoenix are the best, but it's hard to measure since you barely get any goals per season.
Machismo said: Is Zazz Blue suitable for Vanarama north?

Yes, I won that league in the first year with the worst team.
Egraam said: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qM5Gxv2Qk3MkxiaiYWFP70iSxUb7TNr2/edit#gid=1710399827

So far I've only went through some of the top tactics because I've already had them downloaded, I'll try to fill it out more in the next few days. I've only went through each tactic and wrote down the PIs from every position so keep in mind that some tactics simply don't use a certain PI - for example they use neither Take More Risks or Take Fewer Risks, but this was done really quick for now, I'll work on the sheet more later and try to add those instances as well.


Do you mind if I add that to first post?
Mrbolu said: True, thanks anyways it's very useful

It sucks because you need to download and open every single tactic, then check every single role, then note it down. It's like 11 times the work for team instructions, except that most stuff from team instructions you can see from the screenshot.
Mrbolu said: Hopefully someone makes something like this for the player instructions

Too much work, I'm out. =D
Machismo said: From page One intro to tactic -

Against stronger teams, a good trick is to start the match with Cautious mentality, then change back to Positive or Very Attacking on the second half. It works because players from stronger teams crack down at half time when not winning, or get complacent when winning even by one goal. Then you can surprise them and snatch a win while their performance goes down. Against weaker teams, it's often better to just start with Very Attacking mentality. If you are also training Light Blue and Dark Blue, the change in mentality won't affect your tactical affinity.

ARE THE ABOVE MENTALS STILL THE APPROACH TO TAKE?

- Use Light Blue 3.0 when you have a comfortable lead. It's a tactic developed to concede less goals, receive less cards and save some energy, at the cost of less scoring opportunities.
- If your only objective is to concede less goals, then change the mentality of Blue 3.0 to cautious, so it doesn't decrease your chance of winning.
- Use Dark Blue 3.0 when you are desperate for goals. It's Blue 3.0 with very attacking mentality.

IS "DARK BLUE" BETTER THAN JUST CHANGING THE BLUE MENTALITY to VA?


Dark Blue is Blue with Very Attacking mentality. If you don't train a tactic with Very Attacking mentality, then the tactical familiarity will drop if you just change mentality. That's why Dark Blue was uploaded.
Machismo said: "Some players feel general training is too low."

Is it that I need more/better coaches?  Or do I need to tweek Zazz in-season training schedule?  Or add some individual training?

Team is Olympic Marseilles.  March Season 2.


That is just based on personality. Some players are more lazy while others are more hard workers. What they think is irrelevant, it just makes some of them build more or less unhapiness, which is countered by the happiness they gain during training sessions like match practice. I wouldn't worry about that.