logix said: Hey @ZaZ this is looking good but I've just entered my third season using Fanecas tactic which has been pretty solid for me. Just wondering if like his, you have any specifics for mentalities home and away, play for set pieces etc. I like Fanecas tactic because it had good instructions for home/away games in regards to mentality, rotation and tactical tweaks i.e. play for set pieces. Do you have some similar guidance for this one? What if you have fixture congestion, will lowering the tempo or setting mentality lower help etc? I'm guessing no OI's either which is fine Please let me know! Expand
I will add a description with all those information in later patches, since this can become obsolete in a couple of weeks and I didn't have time to test those things yet. What I can say is that playing for set pieces doesn't do much good to this tactic (despite it scoring a lot from set pieces), and that you can lower tempo one tick as well as pressing intensity if your team has low stamina. If you are winning by three or more goals, you can change mentality to cautious, set waste time often, stay on feet, slow pace down and tempo to neutral or lower. This will allow you to save some energy.
Sane said: Zaz, can update Blue tactic, because now this tactic is the worst of yours, but I think it has potential for 6.0+, and it is more realistic in games, your thoughts? Expand
There are already at least a couple of tactics based on Blue, so I will let it be for now. I'll post it later in next patches, so they don't need to test it four times.
Tejash said: Finally @ZaZ we have done it. As promised at the end of the season, I have won everything with your tactic. Many more to come...definately you are number 1 mate. Expand
Gratz! Like I said, I usually start seasons with a few bad matches, so I suppose the tactic starts working way better as you build team cohesion. Good job there and remember to rotate players to avoid fatigue (only visible at medical centre or explicitly adding a column in your view).
Target Person said: Interesting tweak with my beloved Target Forward role though it's the AF who really shines here . Zaz has nailed a very promising 4213 shape though the double attacking volante kinda makes me nervous Expand
Very Attacking Blue is showing lots of promise, I will be uploading it later today or tomorrow.
Mark said: I am going to run with testing 3 tactic formations, being ZaZ Orange 4-3-1-2, Dragons Breath 4-1-3-1 and Blitz 4-2-2W-2. These seem to be the basis for most of the tactics scoring 5.5 plus this season. I will take and adapt the set pieces from 10 tactics to test with each formation as follows: FM20 TFF Cerber, 424 RMD, Arrowhead 2.0, Blitz, Cruels Angel, Electro, Fanecas, Snow Halation V3, Zaz and ZaZ with adapted corners from FM Scout's suggested attacking corner winning tactic (ZaZ MDW). That is 30 tests. If I have time I will then run them 3 times to make 90 tests. They seem to run reasonably quickly in ZaZ test League so I will give results after the first 30 tests and then the next 30 tests and finally at the end. If a set piece routine looks too much like a previously tested one I will disregard it.
So that's the plan. Lets see how it goes. Hopefully I will get through the first run by this time tomorrow. Expand
Thanks! My test league removed all leagues but english based, as well as all professional clubs outside England. That helps the tests running a bit faster (even better if you block first season transfers).
Anyway, I've noticed the defensive corner and defensive indirect free kicks of my tactics could be improved, so I'll be focusing on those two routines for now.
Tejash said: @ZaZ Can we do something to make the tactic more solid at the back? Winning every match by 2-4 goals but wins are sometimes like 3-4, 2-4 so conceding goals is not only frustrating but also sometimes puts your heart in the mouth. Expand
The philosophy of this tactic is to outscore the opponent. You will concede a lot, but should also score a lot, allowing you to win most matches. If you increase defense, you end up losing attack, which would harm performance. Remember that this match engine is very leaky and there is only so much you can do to avoid that. It should hopefully change after next patch, in a couple of weeks.
Filer974 said: Hi ZaZ, first of all congratulations on all your tactics which are on top every year. Unfortunately this year I do not use them because I cannot imagine that a champion takes more than 40 goals in the league or that a normal team takes 100. I know that it is the ME who wants that but could not you can't do a less offensive, more realistic tactic and too bad if you don't have a score of 5.8 or 6. A more realistic, more solid tactic that I could play with please Expand
You can sort the table by fewest goals conceded and pick the one you like. Fanecas and Snow Halation have good score and good defense. You can also use Blue 1.0 if you want.
Jimmy said: Thanks for your answer. Really interested in that because I'm playing with a similar tactic since the release with Brentford with good results so far (with Kvaratskhelia as my DLF-S).
About the instructions, a lot of people are saying that telling to Overlap Left and Overlap Right can make almost any tactic better. Thoughts ? Expand
I don't think it has any effect in a tactic without wingers.
First of all congratulations for your work on FM these last few years, thank you for everything.
Secondly, i'm using your orange SS and i'd like you to talk about how you normally plan your workouts??
Thirdly, in case of expulsion, who do you withdraw?
Thank you and keep up the good work. Expand
About training schedules, you can check the ones used last year for Blue. I'll make a better description for the tactic in later patches with all those details.
About players being sent off, I'd remove either the SS or STCR (STCL and STC have a more important role in set pieces).
Jimmy said: I'd be curious to see the results of a version with a DLF on Support in the middle of the 2 AFs (instead of 3 AFs). Same with WBs on At instead of IWB. @ZaZ What do you think about those possible tweaks ? Expand
WB-At seems to have almost the same performance as IWB-At, so it won't be a problem at all. About DLF support, I think it would make the tactic worse, but would need to test to confirm it.
saitjerome said: i got it, i've changed already. Just wanted your opinion on where to play my header striker for open play. BTW Have u ever tried CWB-A instead of IWB-A for fbs Expand
Tried for other formations and it wasn't very good. Can try again for this one to see how it goes.
Kyle said: As long as you're achieving what you should i've never had a problem with team cohesion, i'm sitting on very good team cohesion right now and I do very little training and the training I do isn't set by me, I also only have 1 win in my last 8 games.
From what I see fatigue is an important thing in fm22 and with how gegenpress works this year it seems like resting players especially if there's 2 games in a week would be the best option or would you rather play them slightly more tired? Expand
After every match, you can go to squad page, sort players by condition and select those most tired to give one or two days of rest from training. All you need to do is select them, right click and choose Training > Rest. That way you rest the players that are tired while allowing other players to do normal training.
P.S.: Oops, posted in the wrong thread.
Thank you for testing! I will run some tests to post results here soon, using the framework of Orange SS, Blue 1.6 and Yellow 3AF.
I will add a description with all those information in later patches, since this can become obsolete in a couple of weeks and I didn't have time to test those things yet. What I can say is that playing for set pieces doesn't do much good to this tactic (despite it scoring a lot from set pieces), and that you can lower tempo one tick as well as pressing intensity if your team has low stamina. If you are winning by three or more goals, you can change mentality to cautious, set waste time often, stay on feet, slow pace down and tempo to neutral or lower. This will allow you to save some energy.
I personally have had a great time with Tammy Abraham and Rick karsdorp
It depends on the league, but go for fast players, with high pace and acceleration, for all positions including defenders.
There are already at least a couple of tactics based on Blue, so I will let it be for now. I'll post it later in next patches, so they don't need to test it four times.
You can, but I don't know how much it will affect performance.
OpticFawn said: @ZaZ You absolute legend your tactic is absolutely broken and we love it!!!
I've won everything possible.
Gratz!
OpticFawn said: what do I look for in the medical centre when it comes to fatigue?
It says "fatigue" very clearly in one of the columns (I guess it only shows for players at risk).
Gratz! Like I said, I usually start seasons with a few bad matches, so I suppose the tactic starts working way better as you build team cohesion. Good job there and remember to rotate players to avoid fatigue (only visible at medical centre or explicitly adding a column in your view).
Very Attacking Blue is showing lots of promise, I will be uploading it later today or tomorrow.
So that's the plan. Lets see how it goes. Hopefully I will get through the first run by this time tomorrow.
Thanks! My test league removed all leagues but english based, as well as all professional clubs outside England. That helps the tests running a bit faster (even better if you block first season transfers).
Anyway, I've noticed the defensive corner and defensive indirect free kicks of my tactics could be improved, so I'll be focusing on those two routines for now.
The philosophy of this tactic is to outscore the opponent. You will concede a lot, but should also score a lot, allowing you to win most matches. If you increase defense, you end up losing attack, which would harm performance. Remember that this match engine is very leaky and there is only so much you can do to avoid that. It should hopefully change after next patch, in a couple of weeks.
You can sort the table by fewest goals conceded and pick the one you like. Fanecas and Snow Halation have good score and good defense. You can also use Blue 1.0 if you want.
About the instructions, a lot of people are saying that telling to Overlap Left and Overlap Right can make almost any tactic better. Thoughts ?
I don't think it has any effect in a tactic without wingers.
First of all congratulations for your work on FM these last few years, thank you for everything.
Secondly, i'm using your orange SS and i'd like you to talk about how you normally plan your workouts??
Thirdly, in case of expulsion, who do you withdraw?
Thank you and keep up the good work.
About training schedules, you can check the ones used last year for Blue. I'll make a better description for the tactic in later patches with all those details.
About players being sent off, I'd remove either the SS or STCR (STCL and STC have a more important role in set pieces).
@ZaZ What do you think about those possible tweaks ?
WB-At seems to have almost the same performance as IWB-At, so it won't be a problem at all. About DLF support, I think it would make the tactic worse, but would need to test to confirm it.
Tried for other formations and it wasn't very good. Can try again for this one to see how it goes.
No, just change the position in set pieces. Go to tactic and select set pieces on the top, then choose corner, attacking, and change for both sides.
Just switch the DCR by your tallest striker, and DCL by your next favorite header.
From what I see fatigue is an important thing in fm22 and with how gegenpress works this year it seems like resting players especially if there's 2 games in a week would be the best option or would you rather play them slightly more tired?
After every match, you can go to squad page, sort players by condition and select those most tired to give one or two days of rest from training. All you need to do is select them, right click and choose Training > Rest. That way you rest the players that are tired while allowing other players to do normal training.
Thanks for testing!