You can use any tactics from FM23 on any database that you can load. You cannot load databases through the editor that are not FM23 23.3.0 match engine compliant.
Deniz Kutsal said: Hey guys, I want to ask you something about football manager 2023 23.0 update databese. As you can see, I can not use editor data files in such a case. And I need these files. But I can use files when 23.0 database is not active. So my question is, can I use 23.0 tactics if the 23.0 update database is inactive and can use files? Expand
The database you are trying to use is a pre FM23 23.3.0 match engine database and not compatible with the current match engine. You can download the (FM23) Leagues Mega Pack by @Timo@ (175 nations + 5 Others Competitions) database that is FM23 23.3.0 match engine compliant. It has Turkey down to Division 6. You only need to load the Leagues you are interested in playing.
The database is available at FM Scout under Add Ons and Databases. I hope this helps
Antal said: This is excellent. But now I always dreamed of choosing different tactics for each opponent. Neutralizing their strong positions and realize my best sides. It is not very fun to play only one tactic. Playing in one championship of the team of almost the same level, but when you play in the Cup and go far by playing Vanarama South by amateur club, there you need to make a miracle and make some money a lot of luck and tactics that will perfectly work in this game. Expand
Instead of changing tactics for each game I try and analyse weaknesses and pick my team to attack the identified weakness. My squad is generally around 30 players. I have Best XI, 2nd XI, Fastest, Biggest, and Most Potential based on stats and GS Ratings. I also have Firsts and Seconds with the Firsts having biggest CBs and one big forward with two fast forwards and the fastest wingers I have. The Seconds is the best players form the remaining squad.
I find this makes it more interesting than just playing your best eleven with the same tactic for each game. I also alter tactics through the game. I usually drop the defensive line and play Cautious for the first 10 to 15 minutes before moving to the default for the tactic I use. And then tweak the tactic depending on how the game is playing out.
This is what I was after, highest goal scoring tactic that is easy to move to from our current leading tactic, just move DM to AM. I am now training my AMs to be DMs and vice versa.
It was something like, you put in match days on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Upload the schedule into the calendar and put match Practice into the other days, then when the matches come along you can add the Match Practice to the other days. Then just copy to the other weeks.
This is a minor tweak to @Delicious Hall of Fame Undervolt XIII tactic.
I have moved the DM forward to an AM role to provide more attacking formation. I am really just looking for a new tactic to use when you need goals if you use his tactic.
The AM is given the role of Advanced Playmaker Support.
I tested with Bournemouth and Kettering and both performed well above expectations with Kettering who were expected to be relegated scoring 148 goals for the season to win the League.
Bournemouth also topped the scoring with 96 goals for the season.
Thats pretty much exactly what I was thinking. Am I also right in that as a young player develops their CA towards their PA and attributes improve that their best position % might change to a new position eg a winger might develop full back beneficially attributes over winger attributes and as a result FMscout will say they would be a better FB than winger even if previously it was the other way round?
Using the attributes that make good players as previously mentioned if I focus my recruitment in the lower leagues on the best 5 attributes for that position eg pace, acceleration, off the ball, finishing and heading for a striker by setting in game filters for say over 11 for those attributes and getting the players with the best CA that are natural in that position with the highest attribute value it would be a good policy? Expand
KBB said: Hi everyone. First Post on here thanks to lurking looking at tactics a this thread in particular. Sorry for the newbie question I have about to ask.
Im using the 4 diamond 2 formation currently number 1 in the testing table for reference and playing the level 10 English database, currently my club is at level 10.
Without using any filters on Fmscout I have a player who is not a FB at all but a DM or AMC on the player profile, however FMscout rates him as my best FB at my club on the position % buy a clear distance. He is rated 49% FB and the next highest player only 32% fullback. Why is this? Should it be ignored and him used as a DM or should I put him in at fullback if thsts what the FMscout says?
Sorry for the question.
Thank you for reading Expand
You need to also look at the positional rating on GS out of 20. For instance if the player is 49% for the position but only 10/20 they will be much lower. What the info you have is indicating is that if you retrained the player to full back up towards the 20/20 rating they would be easily your best player in that position.
Unfortunately, I cannot compete with people brute testing (trying all possible variations), because they are just bound to find good things if they test too much. I lost count of the number of times I spent one week testing something novel, just to see it being tested before I could post it. In the end, the important thing is for people to have good tactics, and not exactly for the best tactic to be mine. I just wish I could have contributed more to the community this year, but my time has been pretty limited recently.
I guess I will try to wrap up the information I collected in my tests with what we got from the testing table and try to make a new version for the tactics. Expand
I love your work mate, it is definitely extremely valuable to the FM Arena community. Please keep it up. I know I am not alone in my appreciation for your work
kasaprus said: automatic translation, sorry for the mistakes Good afternoon I understand correctly, you need to look for players like this? 1. We look in the analytics for the best attributes in our league. Let's say for a midfielder in our league the passing and stamina averages are 10.3, the best stats are 12.7 (Squad - Analyst report - Comparison - Midfield - Show only midfield, right?). So, when searching for players in the positions of DM / MCRL / AMCRL, we round the numbers (11 and 13, respectively), in the game or GenieScout in the attribute filter, specify +1/2, then sort by position with the ykykyk balanced filter, and the players are at the top of the list by rating (if the position is 19/20 or 20/20) - are these players almost guaranteed to be the best in the league? 2. I want to understand what attributes should be viewed for the position. There were several different options in this thread, which one is better to use? If, like in attachment 1, for DM I look at 6 and above, then I compare these attributes by league, and in the filter I set the values by top in league + 1, then I sort in GS by position rating, right? Expand
Your best bet is just to use the ykykyky ratings and pick from there. Look for 18-20 in positional rating and find someone you can afford.
If you want to look at just a few attributes choose the highest ones from the ykykyky ratings file. It is not worth looking at the ones below 50.
Floppyaams said: Is there a downside to doing this? I thought it was always better to prioritize those key attributes over going for balanced players? Expand
I have brought in very tall centre backs before with bad ratings and lowish jumping reach and heading and they have done well.
The database you are trying to use is a pre FM23 23.3.0 match engine database and not compatible with the current match engine. You can download the (FM23) Leagues Mega Pack by @Timo@ (175 nations + 5 Others Competitions) database that is FM23 23.3.0 match engine compliant. It has Turkey down to Division 6. You only need to load the Leagues you are interested in playing.
The database is available at FM Scout under Add Ons and Databases. I hope this helps
Instead of changing tactics for each game I try and analyse weaknesses and pick my team to attack the identified weakness. My squad is generally around 30 players. I have Best XI, 2nd XI, Fastest, Biggest, and Most Potential based on stats and GS Ratings. I also have Firsts and Seconds with the Firsts having biggest CBs and one big forward with two fast forwards and the fastest wingers I have. The Seconds is the best players form the remaining squad.
I find this makes it more interesting than just playing your best eleven with the same tactic for each game. I also alter tactics through the game. I usually drop the defensive line and play Cautious for the first 10 to 15 minutes before moving to the default for the tactic I use. And then tweak the tactic depending on how the game is playing out.
You use the @ZaZ approach of setting all players to no gym or pitch work if they are not at full fitness
I have moved the DM forward to an AM role to provide more attacking formation. I am really just looking for a new tactic to use when you need goals if you use his tactic.
The AM is given the role of Advanced Playmaker Support.
I tested with Bournemouth and Kettering and both performed well above expectations with Kettering who were expected to be relegated scoring 148 goals for the season to win the League.
Bournemouth also topped the scoring with 96 goals for the season.
Thats pretty much exactly what I was thinking. Am I also right in that as a young player develops their CA towards their PA and attributes improve that their best position % might change to a new position eg a winger might develop full back beneficially attributes over winger attributes and as a result FMscout will say they would be a better FB than winger even if previously it was the other way round?
Using the attributes that make good players as previously mentioned if I focus my recruitment in the lower leagues on the best 5 attributes for that position eg pace, acceleration, off the ball, finishing and heading for a striker by setting in game filters for say over 11 for those attributes and getting the players with the best CA that are natural in that position with the highest attribute value it would be a good policy?
I think that would be a reasonable approach
Im using the 4 diamond 2 formation currently number 1 in the testing table for reference and playing the level 10 English database, currently my club is at level 10.
Without using any filters on Fmscout I have a player who is not a FB at all but a DM or AMC on the player profile, however FMscout rates him as my best FB at my club on the position % buy a clear distance. He is rated 49% FB and the next highest player only 32% fullback. Why is this? Should it be ignored and him used as a DM or should I put him in at fullback if thsts what the FMscout says?
Sorry for the question.
Thank you for reading
You need to also look at the positional rating on GS out of 20. For instance if the player is 49% for the position but only 10/20 they will be much lower. What the info you have is indicating is that if you retrained the player to full back up towards the 20/20 rating they would be easily your best player in that position.
If you go into Settings, Position Ratings you can feed them in manually
Unfortunately, I cannot compete with people brute testing (trying all possible variations), because they are just bound to find good things if they test too much. I lost count of the number of times I spent one week testing something novel, just to see it being tested before I could post it. In the end, the important thing is for people to have good tactics, and not exactly for the best tactic to be mine. I just wish I could have contributed more to the community this year, but my time has been pretty limited recently.
I guess I will try to wrap up the information I collected in my tests with what we got from the testing table and try to make a new version for the tactics.
I love your work mate, it is definitely extremely valuable to the FM Arena community. Please keep it up. I know I am not alone in my appreciation for your work
Good afternoon I understand correctly, you need to look for players like this?
1. We look in the analytics for the best attributes in our league. Let's say for a midfielder in our league the passing and stamina averages are 10.3, the best stats are 12.7 (Squad - Analyst report - Comparison - Midfield - Show only midfield, right?). So, when searching for players in the positions of DM / MCRL / AMCRL, we round the numbers (11 and 13, respectively), in the game or GenieScout in the attribute filter, specify +1/2, then sort by position with the ykykyk balanced filter, and the players are at the top of the list by rating (if the position is 19/20 or 20/20) - are these players almost guaranteed to be the best in the league?
2. I want to understand what attributes should be viewed for the position. There were several different options in this thread, which one is better to use? If, like in attachment 1, for DM I look at 6 and above, then I compare these attributes by league, and in the filter I set the values by top in league + 1, then I sort in GS by position rating, right?
Your best bet is just to use the ykykyky ratings and pick from there. Look for 18-20 in positional rating and find someone you can afford.
If you want to look at just a few attributes choose the highest ones from the ykykyky ratings file. It is not worth looking at the ones below 50.
ykykyky ratings
Especially:
-ZAZ under 50 minus 25 filter
-Mark ykykyk
What are these, and where can I find them?
Cheers!
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It worked well in testing for me